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| Thread ID: 113437 | 2010-10-20 02:26:00 | Maori language dying - is it really a problem though? | wratterus (105) | PC World Chat |
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| 1146329 | 2010-10-20 02:26:00 | www.stuff.co.nz It seems obvious to me that over time this was going to happen - if you live in a country that speaks (for example) english as it's main language, then you expect people living in that country to speak it's language...I can't see why it's still taught in schools - IMO it should be parent's job to teach their kids if they want the knowledge of the language to continue past their generation. I doubt they teach whatever language abbos used to speak (was it Warlpiri or something?) in Aussie public schools. |
wratterus (105) | ||
| 1146330 | 2010-10-20 02:30:00 | I voted no. I don't care if my kid learns some as he goes through school but if anyone tries to make it a compulsary subject they better cover their arse as my boot will be on its way. |
DeSade (984) | ||
| 1146331 | 2010-10-20 02:37:00 | If it was a language of international significance yeah, but it's not....so I'm not overly bothered. | qazwsxokmijn (102) | ||
| 1146332 | 2010-10-20 02:43:00 | My kids have had to take maori as a subject all through school. When they had marks/comments on their report cards that suggest that they weren't trying hard enough, I was not worried and told them not to worry about it. So long as their core subjects (English and Maths) were good - and they have been - I was happy. They will be perfectly adequate citizens (and probably way more than adequate) without knowing how to speak or read maori. I'm with DeSade on this one (even if he's trolling again! :D) "The received wisdom is that the revival of te reo over the last 25 years is nothing short of a miracle - and there is an element of truth in that," the tribunal said. "But the notion that te reo is making steady forward progress, particularly amongst the young, is manifestly false." Education was failing to meet the demand. "The reality is, though, that the proportions participating in Maori-language learning in the education system, with the exception of the tertiary level, have declined since the 1990s." "The decline in speaker numbers in key demographics and the dwindling proportion of young Maori participating in Maori-medium education do not justify claims of success, despite advances in areas such as Maori language broadcasting. "Most of the key indicators show that the language is currently going backward... How can education be failing to meet the demand?? Whose demand? Surely if there was demand then the language would not need the "life support" it currently receives??? Perhaps the original supporters of kohanga reo have realised that their kids can't make it in the real world with a separatist type of education? |
johcar (6283) | ||
| 1146333 | 2010-10-20 03:11:00 | You can't stop teaching maori in schools because it would be seen as racist. Then the media would report on the minorities voice because they dont want to be seen as racist either. Then the "apparant" pressure from the media will cause the schools to cave and teach it. Although it has no practical use its taught at primary school anyway. At my school there has only ever been one student who has done yr12 maori because the rest drop out after yr11. |
xyz823 (13649) | ||
| 1146334 | 2010-10-20 05:23:00 | So if / when the language dies, who will get the blame for failing to support it? Teachers? Govenrment? Whitey? Maori? or our new Asian masters? The reality is, even with daily use of Engrish as my only language, there is still a myriad of engrish words I don't know and will never master. If others are like me, then you could argue the Engrish language is in decline as well. sayonara |
Paul.Cov (425) | ||
| 1146335 | 2010-10-20 05:32:00 | Well apparently the government (essentially us, really) can get legally screwed over for not protecting the native language. Was on stuff a few weeks ago I think. | qazwsxokmijn (102) | ||
| 1146336 | 2010-10-20 05:44:00 | Had to learn French or Latin when I was at school and Maori wasn't even on the horizon. I did French for two years, and Maori is no more relevant now than French or Latin was then, but for what it's worth, I can still count up to 20 in French, structure some simple sentences and read it a little, certainly more than I can manage in Maori. I don't see any greater need to teach Maori to Pakeha than I do to teach Fijian, Chinese, Samoan, Spanish, Tongan, Japanese, Niuean, Rarotongan, Italian or any other language. They are available for anybody who wants to learn them by choice, and that is how it should be. Not even Maori flock to learn the language. Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 1146337 | 2010-10-20 05:45:00 | Well apparently the government (essentially us, really) can get legally screwed over for not protecting the native language. Was on stuff a few weeks ago I think. So who's going to screw them. Helen Clark and the UN?? |
paulw (1826) | ||
| 1146338 | 2010-10-20 06:05:00 | So who's going to screw them. Helen Clark and the UN?? Dunno, the stuff article didn't go into depth, but I'm guessing some sort of internal thing within the government? A bit like stabbing oneself in the leg I'm assuming. |
qazwsxokmijn (102) | ||
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