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Thread ID: 113480 2010-10-21 15:30:00 Tell Me About This NZ Tree::::: SurferJoe46 (51) PC World Chat
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1146784 2010-10-22 00:13:00 Never heard of a cowri. Is that another name for Norfolk Pine perhaps? John H (8)
1146785 2010-10-22 00:17:00 Don't forget the Kauri is not a New Zealand exclusive. It's often grown and milled in Indonesia, then sold to our furniture stores here - as kauri :illogical WalOne (4202)
1146786 2010-10-22 00:24:00 Never heard of a cowri. Is that another name for Norfolk Pine perhaps?

No kauri
prefect (6291)
1146787 2010-10-22 01:06:00 Don't forget the Kauri is not a New Zealand exclusive. It's often grown and milled in Indonesia, then sold to our furniture stores here - as kauri :illogical

"Kauri (Agathis australis) is unique to New Zealand but it has about twenty close relatives in Malaysia, Indonesia, the Philippines, Australia and the Pacific Islands." - Te Papa - collections.tepapa.govt.nz

The rellie in Australia initially looks like a kauri, but when you get up close you can see the differences. Don't know what the Indonesian one looks like. Possibly once they are milled it would be hard to see any difference at all?
John H (8)
1146788 2010-10-22 01:13:00 (snip)There has been a lot of planting of Kauri since to re establish this Giant but is very slow growing

There used to be a nurseryman near Albany on the North Shore (Graham Platt?) who reckoned that this was a myth. He used to fly hanging from a strop under a helicopter to the tops of the best growing kauri, and harvest the cones. He maintained that using the best genetic material, and planting them properly in decent soils, they were not slow growing at all.

My wife planted one on the property we lived on in Birkdale (where kauri forest used to flourish before it was milled and the land converted to strawberry gardens). Within 10 years it was about 15 or so feet tall. No doubt by now it has started lifting the concrete driveway... We planted a couple on our section in Christchurch, about 8 years ago, and they were 9 - 10 feet tall when we left. They will grow quite well down here if the conditions are right - there are some really big kauri in ChCh in people's gardens in Ilam and St Albans.
John H (8)
1146789 2010-10-22 01:18:00 Was wonderin' since there's some discourse about the relative cheapness of it compared to other woods in bass slab-body guitars.

MY contention is that the wood does NOT add to the tone, rather it can only attenuate in varying ways according to molecular compactness and humidity and grain - and that any tonal and timber improvements are really less attenuation of certain frequencies.

Agathis is bad-mouthed as the illegitimate evil cousin of better and more tone-worthy woods: swamp ash being proffered as better.

I say Bandini.
SurferJoe46 (51)
1146790 2010-10-22 01:27:00 Well, Agathis doesn't say that it is our kauri. Kauri is Agathis australis, which is only one member of that family. Your evil incarnation is probably the Aussie cuzzy bro. The fact that you say it is cheap suggests you are not talking about NZ Kauri - it is definitely NOT cheap, assuming you can even get hold of it. John H (8)
1146791 2010-10-22 08:24:00 Nice pic showing how wide Kauri used to be.

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My understanding... they are shallow rooted trees that can be 'injured' simply by the damage of a footprint on the ground.

They're now under threat from some microorganism... can't be more specific. A fungus I think.

Very good wood - often used locally (here in Northland) for house building... back before we'd almost wiped them out. Kauri homes are still revered here, but you probably can't legitimately obtain sufficient quantities any more for building... theses beauties are for gazing in awe at. We need to grow them for another 1000 years before we consider cutting them down again.

For anyone visiting Tane Mahuta up in the Waipua Forest - either leave a guard in your car, or take ALL valuables with you as you do the short bush walk - this tourist site, and many others in the region are terrible for car break-in type thefts.

I just can't uinderstand why the local authorities continue to let our international reputation be tarnished - simply for lack of a video camera at each tourist attractions parking area.

You never see the thieves, and needn't fear a confrontation with them... it's just the damage and the trauma they cause by busting into your rental and swiping your camera and passport... scumbags.
Paul.Cov (425)
1146792 2010-10-22 08:31:00 You never see the thieves, and needn't fear a confrontation with them... it's just the damage and the trauma they cause by busting into your rental and swiping your camera and passport... scumbags.

Ngapuhi country. Harawira country. Par for the course. Write your local MP. Sorry, I forgot Hone is the local MP.

:mad:
WalOne (4202)
1146793 2010-10-22 10:03:00 Australis doesn't refer to Australia but the historical Terra Australis Ignota or Terra Australis Incognita (Latin for "the unknown land of the South") a hypothesized continent appearing on European maps from the 15th to the 18th century. (Wiki). martynz (5445)
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