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Thread ID: 113689 2010-10-31 03:07:00 My speech on discrimination xyz823 (13649) PC World Chat
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1149117 2010-10-31 03:07:00 I'm currently working on a speech for level 2 english which focuses on discrimination and how it has changed in society.

Planning to discuss how all races/religions/genders etc have equal rights in the eye of the law compared to 70 years ago etc Civil Rights Act, Martin Luther King, Rosa Parks etc etc. Also looking into how many people tend not to judge others for their choices.

But I would also like to include a section on how the tables how almost turned. Looking at making comparisons between Paul Henry and Hone Harawira (idea came from the thread on here a few weeks back). Also how minorities have all the power etc.

It would be much appreciated if someone could provide some information on places in New Zealand especially, things that maori/asian/indian/tongan/samoan people can do but white people cant. Looking for things such as clubs (if any), sports teams, scholarships, schools, kindergartens etc.

Also, if anyone can find or knows of anything that white people can do and other minorities can't, that would be good too.

Anyway, if anyone has any information that I might find useful or anything that may be though provoking I would very much appreciate it.
xyz823 (13649)
1149118 2010-10-31 04:19:00 Well, with Maori's, one of the diffs maybe when you go to a marae. And when they speak on a marae. They usually speak in Maori. So, unless you can speak Maori (or you can understand it), then you probably wont be allowed to speak. Since you'll have no idea what they're talking about

This isnt discrimination, its their culture / protocol.

And maybe fishing rights under the treaty. Which probably dont apply to Pakeha. Cant say Maori would stop Pakeha's from going to bars, clubs, schools like Te Reo. They'll be happy to teach anyone.

I know with Maori's if they've got Maori land, if your daughter / son married their daughter / son, then they're not entitled to any of that land.

Only your kids are. This isnt discrimination either. Maori Land can only be "handed down" to your mokopuna / kids.

Not to your spouse or any of their family. I know someone who did this.

The daughter married someone whose tribe owns Maori land (the main reason why she married him). When her mum and dad went to find out where the land was, and what she was entitled to, ( a few yrs later), they were told no, none of it is yours, you're not entitled to anything
Speedy Gonzales (78)
1149119 2010-10-31 04:38:00 Planning to discuss how all races/religions/genders etc have equal rights in the eye of the law compared to 70 years ago etc

But I would also like to include a section on how the tables how almost turned .

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Has it? Laws may have changed . People never do .
pctek (84)
1149120 2010-10-31 04:48:00 Has it? Laws may have changed . People never do .

It has changed, discrimination is still alive and kicking . Although now instead of it being "you're black I won't hire you" it's now "hire the black dude or else we look racist"

Minority groups get preferential treatment because people are sh*t scared of being labelled as racist .

Also, I did make sure to mention "in the eyes of the law, and some parts of society" .
xyz823 (13649)
1149121 2010-10-31 04:51:00 You really need to start by defining what you mean by "discrimination" and how the meaning of the word has changed with time mainly to refer to racial prejudice rather than primarily to differentiation.

Speedy's post reflects this in a way, the examples he gives are more in the line of discrimination meaning differentiation.

www.thefreedictionary.com

www.merriam-webster.com
Terry Porritt (14)
1149122 2010-10-31 04:59:00 Guess Maori all Blacks would be a starting point for a sports team, whites can't join yet the members are almost exclusively paler than the All Blacks gary67 (56)
1149123 2010-10-31 05:03:00 Urghhh it's such a massive topic to squeeze into a 4minute speech.

Basically I have it as follows
- Intro
- Racism in early 20th century
- Civil Rights Act, Civil Rights Workers
- How racism has changed
- Slavery
- Brief reference to "To Kill a Mockingbird"
- Paul Henry/Hone Harawira
- Scholarships
- NZ Maori Rugby Team
- Other examples which I have found.
- Conclusion

I feel like I have missed a lot out, which I have, but hopefully it meets the requirements :D
xyz823 (13649)
1149124 2010-10-31 05:26:00 Paul Henry/Hone Harawira

That will take up 5 minutes.

Oh wait.
Renmoo (66)
1149125 2010-10-31 07:52:00 Discrimination is alive and well, and will continue indefinitely.

Our PC times may make discrimination seem unacceptable, but there's been research done on infants which shows a built in sense of 'same as myself' and 'different from myself'. Those that are considered different are less trusted than those that are considered 'same'. A small minotiry of kids with a specific mutation show no inbuilt discrimination.

So with in built mechanisms of discrimination being common, all genders, all races, all nationalities will continue to harbour some degree of prejudice - whether it's right or wrong, justified or totally unjustified.
Minorities will always be sumjected to some degree of discrimination.

The reality - we are not all born equal. Some have lives that are limited by no fault of their own, no fault of their genes, their neighbourhood, their nationality or their religon. It can be as little as an extra minute being throttled in the birth canal that makes the difference between being born an Einstein or being born a Goober.
However, given equal treatment, equal opportunities, equal nourishment, care, respect, teaching all races / colours / nationalities should achieve much the same.

Science has also shown that inequality will also continue to exist. Some people will be rich, some will be poor, even if all are given equal opportunities. Some will work their way to the top, some will fluke their way to the top (George Bush for example is seemingly unworthy of his position in life). Some, despite all their efforts will stay on the bottom. In a world of billions of people mere random chance will result in a diversity of outcomes for people.

Discrimination can have an effect from very simple behavioural changes. Imagine an entire day where people would not hold your gaze - giving less eye contact. Compare that to how you'd feel if everyone held your gaze for the day. A tiny behavioural change can have a big impact when it's effect is felt for a day, a wekk, a year, a lifetime.

I will say one thing for those on the bottom of the pile - they are often more generous. They can afford the least, but they give the most of what they can spare.
Bill Gates sat on billions for years before finding his philanthropic streak (probably thanks to his Mrs). He still gives far less of his disposable income (by percentage) than many of us average folks.
Paul.Cov (425)
1149126 2010-10-31 08:25:00 I can't see how you can cover all those subjects in your allotted 4 minutes. You couldn't even touch the surface and say anything meaningful.

How about narrowing down your topic to one or two cultural/ethnic groups? One group you could choose would be the Chinese. Start with the early migrant workers brought to NZ for gold mining in Central Otago, followed by the poll tax designed to prevent Chinese bringing their families to NZ. The NZ government recently apologised for this. Part of the recent discrimination is when applying for jobs. Some Chinese now adopt an 'English' name just so they can get an interview. There has been a few articles in the papers about this, so you should find some good research material.

Some sources:
www.teara.govt.nz
www.nzherald.co.nz
legacy1.net
Jen (38)
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