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Thread ID: 113701	2010-10-31 23:04:00	Haka - arrogance??	Zippity (58)	PC World Chat

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1149258	2010-11-01 10:19:00	Does it count as racial discrimination if I refuse to buy brown bread but insist on buying white bread? Or is it just possibly a case of I know what I like?	Snorkbox (15764)
1149259	2010-11-01 20:31:00	Some say that the Maori culture is there to be embraced. I wonder if we would like to point out the parts that we find admirable. Perhaps Rob on. could lead the way,I hope I have left enough space.........	Cicero (40)
1149260	2010-11-01 20:37:00	I’d like to see a “Challenged Team” respond with a “Brown Eye” or “Two Fingered Salute”. Could be the makings of a really good game. :D	B.M. (505)
1149261	2010-11-01 20:53:00	Some say that the Maori culture is there to be embraced. I wonder if we would like to point out the parts that we find admirable. Perhaps Rob on. could lead the way,I hope I have left enough space......... {sarcasm} I really like the culture of abuse they have towards their kids and people in general. I love the culture that treats women as less than 2nd class and lets not forget the culture that has then smoking and drinking themselves to death much faster than any other group Last but not least, the culture of the gravy-train Yes lets embrace it..... {/sarcasm} (not directed personally at Cicero, I just find the suggestion ridiculous)	DeSade (984)
1149262	2010-11-01 21:01:00	{sarcasm} I really like the culture of abuse they have to-wards their kids and people in general. I love the culture that treats women as less than 2nd class and lets not forget the culture that has then smoking and drinking themselves to death much faster than any other group Last but not least, the culture of the gravy-train Yes lets embrace it..... {/sarcasm} (not directed personally at Cicero, I just find the suggestion ridiculous) My dear fellow,your conclusion was my point. But I stand to be corrected by those who think we should embrace,what I assume are attributes that will be forthcoming.	Cicero (40)
1149263	2010-11-01 21:10:00	I'm pretty much sick of the haka, every time some one dies or there is a dispute or basically anything happens some one whips out a haka, and most of them are cringe-worthy attempts. In saying this the one that the AB's do is something quite special and it would be sad to see it disappear completely, I think it should become a rare display rather than an expected thing. Agreed, and with what Metla said. I believe in some of the recent high-school girl mall-beatings, one of them thought it would be appropriate to whip out the Haka at some stage during the whole ordeal. Super ... I like it's meaning, but still, I do wonder if it's been taken too far. That said, other countries also have something similar, and we respectfully stand by and watch it, so why can't they do likewise? Maybe if the Haka was 15 minutes long then perhaps they could turn away and do their own pre-game warmups but it's not even 60 seconds worth yeah? That raises an interesting point about the National Anthem. I agree that a lot of Maoris push "their culture" as "our culture", but still... Same for saying you don't wanna ask God to save the queen. If you don't, that's cool, ask buddah or whoever else, no skin off my back. Can you imagine trying to change the national anthem so every ethnicity and religion was happy? It'd be a disaster. The Athiests would say there is no god, christians would say theirs is the only god, buddists would go on about theirs and how all theirs should be recognized. Ain't gonna happen.	Chilling_Silence (9)
1149264	2010-11-01 21:26:00	Agreed, and with what Metla said. I believe in some of the recent high-school girl mall-beatings, one of them thought it would be appropriate to whip out the Haka at some stage during the whole ordeal. Super ... I like it's meaning, but still, I do wonder if it's been taken too far. That said, other countries also have something similar, and we respectfully stand by and watch it, so why can't they do likewise? Maybe if the Haka was 15 minutes long then perhaps they could turn away and do their own pre-game warmups but it's not even 60 seconds worth yeah? That raises an interesting point about the National Anthem. I agree that a lot of Maoris push "their culture" as "our culture", but still... Same for saying you don't wanna ask God to save the queen. If you don't, that's cool, ask buddah or whoever else, no skin off my back. Can you imagine trying to change the national anthem so every ethnicity and religion was happy? It'd be a disaster. The Athiests would say there is no god, christians would say theirs is the only god, buddists would go on about theirs and how all theirs should be recognized. Ain't gonna happen. Thats the point I think Chill The anthem needs to mention the country NOT religion of any sort. I would prefer it being completely in English and be a celebration of this country.	DeSade (984)
1149265	2010-11-01 21:31:00	I got thinking about that though, as I was writing my last post. How do you have something like that which is all-empowering and not racially / religiously exclusive? What do you reckon it would say? I've got no ideas :-/	Chilling_Silence (9)
1149266	2010-11-01 21:54:00	Me either actually but I am not a song writer. We have many talented people in this country that could write a great song for it. Have a national competition or something.	DeSade (984)
1149267	2010-11-01 22:04:00	I just dont like the haka period, never have, dont now, never will. Its carried out so much it looks stupid to me, haka for everything now even weddings and funerals. When teams beat us after a haka like the Wallabies it makes the haka cheap. Its not representative of my culture my folks came to Nelson in 1840 from England thats my culture.	prefect (6291)
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