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Thread ID: 113701	2010-10-31 23:04:00	Haka - arrogance??	Zippity (58)	PC World Chat

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1149228	2010-11-01 00:03:00	Did anyone remember Ipi Tombi when they toured here in the 80s. Now that was a cool jump around by natives especially the topless ones.	prefect (6291)
1149229	2010-11-01 00:17:00	The Haka is a call to war, its a acronistic and archaic form of challenge that has no place in modern society. I think thugby itself should be banned but that opinion is by far in the minority. haha i think people who play it should have to pay their own medical insurance and not be eligible for ACC but that is another story not to be talked about here	Gobe1 (6290)
1149230	2010-11-01 01:04:00	Rugby ceased to be a sport when they started playing prima donna players mega-bucks. They are now relegated to the position of paid entertainers - The idea that rugby is a battle is wrong and unsportsmanlike - The concept of sport, implies that participation is the most important attribute and so long as all players give of their best the outcome is secondary. The NZ national attitude has brought the sport of Rugby down to the level of a gladitorial combat between teams of paid performers.	KenESmith (6287)
1149231	2010-11-01 01:07:00	Rugby ceased to be a sport when they started playing prima donna players mega-bucks. They are now relegated to the position of paid entertainers - The idea that rugby is a battle is wrong and unsportsmanlike - The concept of sport, implies that participation is the most important attribute and so long as all players give of their best the outcome is secondary. The NZ national attitude has brought the sport of Rugby down to the level of a gladitorial combat between teams of paid performers. The players are a disgrace, without the "game" as an outlet most of them would be in prison for assault and murder.	DeSade (984)
1149232	2010-11-01 01:17:00	Rugby ceased to be a sport when they started playing prima donna players mega-bucks. Damn straight. One reason they do the Haka is to attract attention and provide entertainment - thus getting more people to NZ = more tourism $$$ The AB's are not much more than a marketing gimmick these days...	SoniKalien (792)
1149233	2010-11-01 01:19:00	Ok sounds some of you dont know what the haka actually is, one thing it isn't is a 'war dance'. Do some home work. The game itself is a contact competitive sport, if you don't like it watch soccer (yea I said it, soccer:p), they fake injuries and only touch each other in the softly. The millions it generates should be enough to cover the 30 or so players actually playing it in acc....	rob_on_guitar (4196)
1149234	2010-11-01 02:26:00	I'm afraid the Haka has been flogged to death. You can't even watch the news on TV1 without them fitting one in somewhere. Unfortunately, most of the World have no idea about the Haka and seeing some Natives pulling faces, poking out there tongue, stamping their feet, and slapping there thighs gives them the impression that New Zealand is still totally uncivilised. The Australian poet AB (Banjo) Patterson made reference to it in one of his poems about Maori 100 years ago. I suppose some will call him racist, but the poem can be found in any Library amongst his works. Let me share it with you and don’t forget it was written about 100 years ago. THE MAORI’S WOOL THE Maoris are a mighty race—the finest ever known; Before the missionaries came they worshipped wood and stone; They went to war and fought like fiends, and when the war was done They pacified their conquered foes by eating every one. But now-a-days about the pahs in idleness they lurk, Prepared to smoke or drink or talk— or anything but work. The richest tribe in all the North in sheep and horse and cow, Were those who led their simple lives at Rooti-iti-au. ‘Twas down to town at Wellington a noble Maori came, A Rangatira of the best, Rerenga was his name— (The word Rerenga means a “snag”—but until he was gone This didn’t strike the folk he met—it struck them later on). He stalked into the Bank they call the “Great Financial Hell”, And told the Chief Financial Fiend the tribe had wool to sell. The Bold Bank Manager looked grave—the price of wool was high. He said, “We’ll lend you what you need—we’re not disposed to buy. “You ship the wool to England, Chief!—You’ll find it’s good advice, And meanwhile you can draw from us the local market price.” The Chief he thanked him courteously and said he wished to state In all the Rooti-iti tribe his mana would be great, But still the tribe were simple folk, and did not understand This strange finance that gave them cash without the wool in hand. So off he started home again, with trouble on his brow, To lay the case before the tribe at Rooti-iti-au. They held a great korero in the Rooti-iti clan, With speeches lasting half a day from every leading man. They called themselves poetic names—”lost children in a wood”; They said the Great Bank Manager was Kapai—extra good! And so they sent Rerenga down, full-powered and well-equipped, To draw as much as he could get, and let the wool be shipped; And wedged into a “Cargo Tank”, full up from stern to bow, A mighty clip of wool went Home from Rooti-iti-au. It was the Bold Bank Manager who drew a heavy cheque; Rerenga cashed it thoughtfully, then clasped him round the neck; A hug from him was not at all a thing you’d call a lark— You see he lived on mutton-birds and dried remains of shark— But still it showed his gratitude; and, as he pouched the pelf, “I’ll haka for you, sir,” he said, “in honour of yourself!” The haka is a striking dance—the sort they don’t allow In any place more civilized than Rooti-iti-au. He “haka’d” most effectively—then, with an airy grace, Rubbed noses with the Manager, and vanished into space. But when the wool return came back, ah me, what sighs and groans! For every bale of Maori wool was loaded up with stones! Yes—thumping great New Zealand rocks among the wool they found; On every rock the Bank had lent just eighteen-pence a pound. And now the Bold Bank Manager, with trouble on his brow, Is searching vainly for the chief from Rooti-iti-au. :crying	B.M. (505)
1149235	2010-11-01 03:16:00	The players are a disgrace, without the "game" as an outlet most of them would be in prison for assault and murder. That would probably be the most stupid, childish comment I have ever read on any forum.	Richard (739)
1149236	2010-11-01 03:20:00	Then you tell me where that aggression would be channeled? Without this poor excuse for a sport they would be like pitbulls off the leash.	DeSade (984)
1149237	2010-11-01 03:28:00	The HAKA annoys me. I also refuse to sing the national anthem in maori and only sing the english part. I'm not racist against maori's, i just wish they would stop shoving their culture down our throats and trying to say its our culture.	goodiesguy (15316)
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