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Thread ID: 147647	2019-02-18 01:44:00	And Now ---> Back On The Mint Side Of My 'Puter........	SurferJoe46 (51)	Press F1

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1458391	2019-02-19 07:12:00	So - it's a dependency? Cr@p! I have no idea what I got that requires MongoDB. I think the ONLY extra I put in is Pithos. Well, you manually added the mongodb repo. When and why did you do that? edit: sorry, just spotted it came from the trusty/universe repo ... If you've got aptitude installed, "aptitude why mongodb-server" will tell you.	fred_fish (15241)
1458392	2019-02-19 07:45:00	Well, you manually added the mongodb repo . When and why did you do that? I saw MongoDB on the Additional Repositories and I unchecked it to try to find what was hanging me up . I got a warning that I could not re-establish MongoDB if I took it out . I was suspicious of the Additional Repositories since I heard that these could sometimes hold malware . So, with that thought, I let the remover run, then scanned again and MongoDB was recommended so I reinstalled it again . MongoDB came back just fine, so much for the warning! At first the RED X disappeared for a while - but it came back about an hour later . The RED X is here right now, FYI . I have two other add-ons that I put in ---> Wine & Bleachbit Wine is obvious - and Bleachbit was what another Linux 'expert' in my neighborhood said I could run to kill any old junk and get rid of it as he thought that I had something competing for --- whatever he said --- I forget . It sounded OK though . . Obviously nothing is repaired or running better . This distro just feels 'heavy' and it gets to a point where it seems to want to lock up if I don't close down to only one or two open tabs . Sometimes I have tried to see if it would clear up by itself and I let Pithos run alone on it overnight and part of the next morning - a total of maybe 12 hours . It was still working, but VERY HEAVY and somewhat unresponsive of the keyboard and generally just ignores the mouse . Stack problems? Overwriting too much? Reboots seem to be very long and holding a lighted black screen for 6 minutes or so . I can see the light on underneath the screen, but the screen is very very deep blue-ish black with a slight tinge of not very much lighter blue around the edges . This screen will stay blank but dark and the hdd light not blinking, just ON . Neither the keyboard nor the mouse work at this point . I cannot input anything other than restarting the machine . Then --- the reboot --- although somewhat long --- will happen and all is well for a dozen hours or so . The RED X is on all the time during this slowdown although it is not there for maybe 15 minutes or so, after a reboot or a cold start . .	SurferJoe46 (51)
1458393	2019-02-19 10:16:00	Sounds like you are short on ram. Linux systems can be lighter on hardware, but it still depends on your setup - Mint/Cinnamon isn't known as a "light" distro. Just rechecked your other thread and you do/did have repo.mongodb.org in your sources, along with a crapload of others. The problem with third party repo's is that, even if they purport to be compatible with the release you are running, they will only take account for making the software they provide run on a stock system (even then there can be some issues f.e. when the base release updates components and they don't, etc,) and cannot know about any other custom changes made by other third party addons. When you add multiple third party repo's, they can each make conflicting changes causing all sorts of weird and hard to track down issues. My advice to anyone that wants a trouble free system is to stick to packages available from the distro's own repos - a lot of work goes into ensuring these all work together, and security fixes and upgrades are co-ordinated and tested so as not to break stuff. If they don't supply what you want, maybe you're running the wrong distro. Just removing the repo doesn't magically make the packages installed from them go away or undo any alterations the package install scripts have made, and if they have installed some updated libraries that other programs now depend on, trying to remove them or roll back to stock versions can produce some interestingly convoluted dependency chains. ("why does my apt upgrade want to remove everything!...." etc.) I'd also say you're better off without wine too - just find native alternatives for what you want or run windows for the windows apps you can't do without.	fred_fish (15241)
1458394	2019-02-19 11:25:00	+1 ^----- what he said. I've had trouble in the past with adding too many PPA's to my system. Sometimes updating can take ages and even fail because one or more PPA servers were not responding. That is one of the things I like about Manjaro ... the AUR (Arch User Repository) which is community supported has just about everything you could want to install that isn't in the system repositories. It is all coming from one source, not a bunch of servers all over the place. But, having said that, the software in the AUR isn't as stringently tested as the main repos are so you have to bear that in mind too.	Rod J (451)
1458395	2019-02-20 01:50:00	Strangely - I do not remember adding those two - MongoDB and another that I haven't mentioned yet as I thought these were installed by Linux for something Linux wanted, not something I wanted to install . Can these PPAs cross over to Linux Lite? If necessary, I can abandon Mint and just run Lite since it seems a lot nicer and I don't feel the heaviness that I feel here on Mint . I don't feel I have as much control on Lite as I had on Mint - the GUIs are sadly less, er: THERE in Lite, and are much more available in Mint . Just sayin' . . . . that's the way it seems to me OK - moving on then - can a distro be put on a hdd on a different 'puter, and then that hdd transplanted to THIS tower and run OK? I know Windows throws a hissy and will blue star you in a heartbeat - wondering if Linux stuff is so too . . Here's some info from the Software Sources card for Mint: PPAs danielrichter/grub-customizer danielrichter/grub-customizer (sources) nilarimgard/webupd8 nilarimgard/webupd8 (sources) Add'l Repositories CR-ROM - we know what this is . . . . . . Getdeb - and a lot of gibberish that goes on a bit MongoDB - - and a lot of gibberish that goes on a bit here too Ya know ---> I'm learning a lot here thanks to youse guys . I can't express loudly enough how happy I am that you spend your precious time with me - here .	SurferJoe46 (51)
1458396	2019-02-20 04:58:00	Can these PPAs cross over to Linux Lite? No, the settings and repository sources, etc are completely independent in each install . If necessary, I can abandon Mint and just run Lite since it seems a lot nicer and I don't feel the heaviness that I feel here on Mint . I don't feel I have as much control on Lite as I had on Mint - the GUIs are sadly less, er: THERE in Lite, and are much more available in Mint . Just sayin' . . . . that's the way it seems to me You don't have to abandon Mint . . . do you know there is an Xfce version of Mint? Xfce is a lighter desktop than Cinnamon as you've discovered: . linuxmint . com/?p=3671" target="_blank">blog . linuxmint . com OK - moving on then - can a distro be put on a hdd on a different 'puter, and then that hdd transplanted to THIS tower and run OK? I know Windows throws a hissy and will blue star you in a heartbeat - wondering if Linux stuff is so too . . You can do this and it will generally work quite well after a reboot or two . Complications with proprietary video drivers can be an issue though . I can't say I've tried it myself but I've heard that it can be done . Yes, you're right about Windows not being happy about such a move and it would certainly violate Microsoft's EULA to do that .	Rod J (451)
1458397	2019-02-20 06:37:00	You can do this and it will generally work quite well after a reboot or two. Complications with proprietary video drivers can be an issue though. I can't say I've tried it myself but I've heard that it can be done. Yes, you're right about Windows not being happy about such a move and it would certainly violate Microsoft's EULA to do that. FYI: Thats actually not quite fully correct :). W10 will often reload with new hardware, installing new drivers as it goes. Its a bit untidy though, leaving old not used drivers. Dont know how many times I've plugged in Drives with W10, oops wrong Workshop PC, hasn't had this install before. (doesn't help when you have a dozen drives to select from :xmouth:) To be sure it can have sysprep run which is what its designed to do, get the OS ready to image to different hardware while retaining Installed programs etc, along with a Answer file (if added) can then be imaged to many computers. The EULA - Yeah, maybe, BUT in W10 theres a option inbuilt to reactivate the previous key on different /new Hardware.	wainuitech (129)
1458398	2019-02-20 08:27:00	Well, that sounds downright flexible by Windows standards. Good to know that, I thought no way Windows would do that. Cool!	Rod J (451)
1458399	2019-02-20 09:04:00	Well, that sounds downright flexible by Windows standards. Good to know that, I thought no way Windows would do that. Cool! Doesn't do it 100 % of the time, but its a LOT better than what it was. I got a sysprepped image with various programs, can drop on any PC, on boot the drivers install, and the license key added, unless its a previous activated hardware then it does it automatically. Around 15 min usually from start to finish. Been watching this thread, and going by some of the advise given ( all very good and actually helpful suggestions ), it sounds a little like the system could be in a bit of a mess. Sometimes its just as easy to save the data (if not already done) wipe the drive clean and reinstall, this way all the problem files /installs are gone. Done that myself when Mint turned turtle. Why spend days (or weeks) trying to fix something that will never be the same again. Looking at the Mint Xfce link ( good idea) I downloaded and installed it as a VM, within 30 minutes all up and going. :)	wainuitech (129)
1458400	2019-02-20 10:11:00	Can these PPAs cross over to Linux Lite? ... Here's some info from the Software Sources card for Mint: PPAs danielrichter/grub-customizer danielrichter/grub-customizer (sources) nilarimgard/webupd8 nilarimgard/webupd8 (sources) On re-reading your post I may have misunderstood your question here. If you mean "can you add these repositories to your Linux Lite install?" ... the answer is yes. Because both Mint and Lite are based on Debian/Ubuntu it should be possible.	Rod J (451)
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