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| Thread ID: 113984 | 2010-11-13 05:21:00 | Is it time to drop our wages ? | Digby (677) | PC World Chat |
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| 1152565 | 2010-11-14 09:13:00 | The cost of living in comparison to wages is just way way out of whack. The government should be shot. The squabble over their rorts and what they have to let us know about while we have to save all year to pay a car registration, then they send out their tax collectors to hit us in the pocket for using the roads our taxes paid for. ***, Some petty scumbag ticketed my wagon outside my house for pointing in the wrong direction. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 1152566 | 2010-11-14 18:41:00 | The cost of living in comparison to wages is just way way out of whack. The government should be shot. The squabble over their rorts and what they have to let us know about while we have to save all year to pay a car registration, then they send out their tax collectors to hit us in the pocket for using the roads our taxes paid for. ***, Some petty scumbag ticketed my wagon outside my house for pointing in the wrong direction. Meh I got a $40 parking ticket last week. I forgot to get a pay and display ticket, came back up 10min later with cash to get one and found her writing out a ticket. She wouldn't even let me put the money in. |
xyz823 (13649) | ||
| 1152567 | 2010-11-14 19:25:00 | However there is a huge problem in the global financial system at the moment, especially with the US printing so much money, and gold prices at their highest levels ever, it is referred to as the currency war, so there is very likely to be another crash. Well we have just witnessed the greatest bull run in history so trying to fight the greatest bear run in history is a wast of time |
Gobe1 (6290) | ||
| 1152568 | 2010-11-14 19:46:00 | "I already think the wages is too low in NZ" Compared to where ? And I'm saying that there would be a comparable drop in rent, land values, and other prices. So we would all be relatively as well off, but New Zealand would be able to export more. "Think not what your country can do for you, but think what you can do for your country." JF Kennedy. |
Digby (677) | ||
| 1152569 | 2010-11-14 19:50:00 | "I already think the wages is too low in NZ" Compared to where ? And I'm saying that there would be a comparable drop in rent, land values, and other prices . So we would all be relatively as well off, but New Zealand would be able to export more . "Think not what your country can do for you, but think what you can do for your country . " JF Kennedy . That would be hard to police . How many people would be willing to drop prices?? |
xyz823 (13649) | ||
| 1152570 | 2010-11-15 04:25:00 | "I already think the wages is too low in NZ" Compared to where ? And I'm saying that there would be a comparable drop in rent, land values, and other prices . So we would all be relatively as well off, but New Zealand would be able to export more . "Think not what your country can do for you, but think what you can do for your country . " JF Kennedy . Wages are not the issue . Ireland(similar population to NZ) will have a 50 billion $US trade **surplus** this year AND there wages are a lot higher than NZ these day . Ireland economy is also in the toilet and they will be lucky to avoid a IMF bailout next year, a great example of how its not purely about exports . NZ needs to increase productively, find new products to export, earn more as a nation, not cut wages . Its about working smarter not harder . More money needed to be poured into R&D and support new business opportunities during the recent boom years, not poured into new Family support benefits that were very popular amongst the short sighted and great for winning votes . IF NZ had of used its surpluses to grow the entire economy we would have been doing a lot better now . |
Battleneter2 (9361) | ||
| 1152571 | 2010-11-15 05:48:00 | "I already think the wages is too low in NZ" Compared to where ? And I'm saying that there would be a comparable drop in rent, land values, and other prices . So we would all be relatively as well off, but New Zealand would be able to export more . "Think not what your country can do for you, but think what you can do for your country . " JF Kennedy . Wages compared to other countries are relative, as is the amount we can earn from exporting, relative to where the NZ dollar is . Some exporters are doing very nicely at the moment, as our largest export market Australia, the NZ dollar is very low . We should be comparing oursleves with other 1st world similar leveled OECD countries . This would include Australia, UK and the US . NZ wages are significantly lower than all these . There is a huge disparity within the NZ wage market and I don't think there has even been such a big gap . Some people earn many hundreds of dollar per hour, while others earn less than $15 . Some are even earning thousands per hour . |
robbyp (2751) | ||
| 1152572 | 2010-11-15 05:54:00 | I read people complaing yet how many of them realise that they are probably just as much at fault for the cost of their living as the next person? Let see 8 years ago I moved from a distant land of milk and honey that you believe and found myself better off in the "what I have" compared to "what I had" situation. 8 years on and I am getting on with it and realising that if I was back where I was I probably would be worse off in many other ways. That land of milk and Honey does not exist for long. Couple of observations since I was first living in NZ 14 years ago that I noticed in wages in the low economic area I now live in. Yes may not be wealthy but I am happier than if I was somewehre else other wise I would have moved back long ago. Anyways I digrese(sp?) 14 years ago back in 1996 to be exact the average wage was just $9 per hour around here and minimum wage was a few dollars lower I think $6.37? Now fast forward 12 years and the same employers now pay minimum wage of $12.75. Yet the cost of housing and general cost of living in the area has increased by way more than 42% the wages increased over 14 years in fact wages have gone down. Minimum wage incresed by 100% in 14 years yet wages in the same area increased by 42%, cost of housing in the area over 200% in the same time, Electricity (I wont even go there), price petrol 100%, etc etc etc. Yet in the 14 years there was a big period of boom time and the excuse then was still can not afford to give a payrise! So wages have already gone down now they are simply frozen its the cost everthing else that needs to be stabilised and our greed of exploitation is what is costing the most. |
coldfront (15814) | ||
| 1152573 | 2010-11-15 07:37:00 | Nice post coldfront, wish i could remember facts like that | Gobe1 (6290) | ||
| 1152574 | 2010-11-15 08:07:00 | I read people complaing yet how many of them realise that they are probably just as much at fault for the cost of their living as the next person? Let see 8 years ago I moved from a distant land of milk and honey that you believe and found myself better off in the "what I have" compared to "what I had" situation. 8 years on and I am getting on with it and realising that if I was back where I was I probably would be worse off in many other ways. That land of milk and Honey does not exist for long. Couple of observations since I was first living in NZ 14 years ago that I noticed in wages in the low economic area I now live in. Yes may not be wealthy but I am happier than if I was somewehre else other wise I would have moved back long ago. Anyways I digrese(sp?) 14 years ago back in 1996 to be exact the average wage was just $9 per hour around here and minimum wage was a few dollars lower I think $6.37? Now fast forward 12 years and the same employers now pay minimum wage of $12.75. Yet the cost of housing and general cost of living in the area has increased by way more than 42% the wages increased over 14 years in fact wages have gone down. Minimum wage incresed by 100% in 14 years yet wages in the same area increased by 42%, cost of housing in the area over 200% in the same time, Electricity (I wont even go there), price petrol 100%, etc etc etc. Yet in the 14 years there was a big period of boom time and the excuse then was still can not afford to give a payrise! So wages have already gone down now they are simply frozen its the cost everthing else that needs to be stabilised and our greed of exploitation is what is costing the most. The difference is of course, that 15 years ago, we had more families that only had a single person in that family working. These days many families have two working people in them. This is one reason why houses have gone up so much, because things are only worth as much as someone can afford to borrow from the bank. Banks will lend more if there is more incoming earning potential. |
robbyp (2751) | ||
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