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| Thread ID: 113984 | 2010-11-13 05:21:00 | Is it time to drop our wages ? | Digby (677) | PC World Chat |
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| 1152545 | 2010-11-13 09:35:00 | What's wrong with the C word? How is it offensive? It's only offensive if you take it as offensive. Anyway, LynX explains it well. Don't be a moron, Digby is much older than you and quite obviously much wiser too. Have some respect. |
qazwsxokmijn (102) | ||
| 1152546 | 2010-11-13 09:41:00 | What's wrong with the C word? How is it offensive? It's only offensive if you take it as offensive. 99.9 percent of the people that have read your post now consider you to be a dick. Sure you can argue its just a formation of letters but your intent was to abuse,degrade and insult. If you were within reach I'd give you a thick ear. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 1152547 | 2010-11-13 10:04:00 | It would be better for unemployment, yes. For the average working Joe it would be bad. Imagine, you're doing a 40 hour week, minimum wage. If your pay goes down, and you're depending on that money, you've gotta get it from somewhere, so you gotta pick up extra work. If there's no more shifts available, you gotta get a second job, which means secondary tax. If wages go down, the cost of living (mortgage/rent, food, petrol, car regos, etc) will probably stay the same for a while, at least six months, if not more. Good luck getting the fat-cat wages down. How you gonna get someone with a money-making business, who effectively sets their own wage, to agree to lower it? |
ubergeek85 (131) | ||
| 1152548 | 2010-11-13 18:56:00 | Sorry, Firstly I'm unsure what you mean when you say This way we would be able to compete with Asia etc and stand a good chance of being able to sell our wine and kiwifruit, seafood etc. Would you possibly be able to explain further. I see ANZ / National are going to move back office jobs to India 50 at a time (so it does not get noticed). Yes, people in India do get paid a lot less, but aren't their living standards much,much worse? If it was that much better in India, why are many of them moving over here? Lastly, I agree with LynX. Most of the people I know, would firstly be outraged by a drop in wages. People who already struggle enough would struggle even more. Then, even if large corperations agree to lower their prices, people will wait and wait and wait for them to continue dropping. So they will hold onto their money rather than spend it. Then, businesses will have none or little revenue coming in and will have to begin to lay off staff. Apologies for swearing at you, working a 9hr shift at Maccas in the stinking heat and coming home to study like a madman, doesn't work well with my stress levels. It was unnecessary to take it out on you. |
xyz823 (13649) | ||
| 1152549 | 2010-11-13 20:15:00 | Where are the facts for your assumptions. :) Well, you see, the price never came down during the recession; not large enough for people to care anyway. Or ask any economist :) The ultimate goal as you have suggested is to increase Purchasing Power of money. Decreasing money is one way, but it's unacceptable for most of the population. |
LynX (14542) | ||
| 1152550 | 2010-11-13 22:32:00 | First step: bring back the youth minimum wage, so young people actually have a chance of getting a job. These days employers will prefer to hire adults instead of young people (i.e. those still at school, or those who have left school but are not 18 yet) since they have to pay them $12.50/hr either way. Why take a risk with someone when you can hire an older person who has more work/life experience. | somebody (208) | ||
| 1152551 | 2010-11-14 00:39:00 | Solution:D: www.youtube.com You see, Somebody, a strange thing that tends to happen is that when the government puts up the Minimum Wage, Unemployment actually increases, because businesses have to pay more to its employees. But I guess the Youth Minimum Wage is something else... or is it? |
LynX (14542) | ||
| 1152552 | 2010-11-14 00:59:00 | Its a great idea in THEORY but would never work in PRACTICE! Correction it is already happening and those who think it is not should stop asking and getting a payrise. There are so many differant variables which you do not think about that if you think it is a good idea and would work then you have not given any thought to those variables. Great excuse was blaming the recession for not giving a pay rise or the economic climate. An employer I know used that line! My retort was you never gave a payrise during the so called boom years so whats changed? Only way to get a payrise was change jobs! Ahh not so easy now days is it? Cost of living versus the amount of payrise..think about that. Minimum wage slowly going up catching up the ones who are not getting payrises. My wife just changed jobs because the only payrises were due to minimum wage increses and the gap to her was getting narrower. Changing jobs more money but less hours so dont quite work out but hey more free time same wages. Stuff the idea of dropping wages its already happening! Its the cost of living that needs to drop and hey blmae that on payrises...cant win reality. |
coldfront (15814) | ||
| 1152553 | 2010-11-14 01:01:00 | You see, Somebody, a strange thing that tends to happen is that when the government puts up the Minimum Wage, Unemployment actually increases, because businesses have to pay more to its employees. But I guess the Youth Minimum Wage is something else... or is it? I agree with you, so I'm not too sure what your point is. The minimum wage for people between 16-18 years of age _was_ a number lower than the adult minimum wage a few years ago, meaning young people had a competitive advantage (since employers could pay them at $9/hr or whatever the prevailing rate was at the time instead of $12.75/hr). Since the youth minimum wage was abolished*, a 16 year old high school dropout with no qualifications or work experience has to be paid the same $12.75/hr minimum wage as an older, more experienced person. Is anyone surprised that the youth unemployment rate is over twice the overall unemployment rate? If you were an employer and had a choice, who would you hire? I don't know if it's just me, but there seem to be a lot fewer kids working in supermarkets and other similar places compared to a few years ago. [* Yes I know there's a "new entrants" clause which has a minimum wage of $10.20/hr for the first 3 months or 200hrs of work for people aged 16 & 17 but it's not the same thing]. |
somebody (208) | ||
| 1152554 | 2010-11-14 02:43:00 | First step: bring back the youth minimum wage, so young people actually have a chance of getting a job. These days employers will prefer to hire adults instead of young people (i.e. those still at school, or those who have left school but are not 18 yet) since they have to pay them $12.50/hr either way. Why take a risk with someone when you can hire an older person who has more work/life experience. If an older person is looking at a job that is paying minimum wage, they are either desperate or have little to no qualifications. |
xyz823 (13649) | ||
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