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Thread ID: 114060	2010-11-16 10:17:00	HELP - any tips for getting restricted licence?!?	Miss Daisy (16080)	PC World Chat

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1153690	2010-11-19 06:29:00	seriously jareemon, your tell me that i give bad advise and you give out crap like that :( well you just made the person fail and that advice would get them killed one day. i would really love to see you come up here, drive like that and see how long you live for. roadworks, take at sensible speed. if theres a speed limit obey the speed limit. if theres no speed limit don't slow right down because they will fail you straight away and the guy behind you will probably run you off the road and the next 20 cars will be honking horns and abusing the crap out of ya. drive at a sensible speed. same for a bus, slowdown to the proper speed when passing a school bus. if you slow down for any old bus you will fail and probably get **** from all the other cars not to mention entice all the crazies to do stupid stuff. why nitpick over things that you will not ever get tested on. all that will do is make you more nervous which is when you will stuff things up. so relax, go drive. i had to take a relative to do his recently. he had next to no training... i had one day to teach him enough to pass... without going through all the crap most have mentioned here. . Your friend must've had a cruisy tester, because these days the test involve much more than simply seeing if you can drive in a relaxed manner. They test you on specific things, some of these things can be dificult to pick up. The fact that you would tell someone to not worry and just drive, is indeed the worst piece of advice you could give a student driver. why dont you just go and tell a student pilot to just go with the flow and do what he feels like? This is the real world, and in the real world, there are real rules that MUST be followed for EVERYONE'S safety. I dont know how old you are or how long ago you took the restricted/full driving test, but before you suggest that one DISREGARDS THE LAW, you better be aware that bad advice can kill someone. If one comes to roadworks that are not signposted, it is THE LAW to slow down regardless. I'm not saying one must slam on their brakes so as to cause an accident it's pretty obvious that one should slow down carfully and again it is the law that one looks in their rear vision mirror before slowing down. Bottom line, before you give advice, about road safety, you better know the laws.	jareemon (5207)
1153691	2010-11-19 08:00:00	Like you never did that on your penny farthing bike Paul :D Seems it's now called 'man-trol'. We oldies call it common sense... just not very common among those aged 15-25. I have a mate who's son has written off 3 or more cars - I lose count. He's about $40K down the hole to finance companies, and now uninsurable, and he continues to buy 'flashy' (ie dickhead) cars and trash them within a few months of getting them. I dunno what he thinks he's proving in doing all this, or who he thinks he's impressing, but he needs to grow up and learn that there's more to being a man than being able to press a throttle to the floor. After all, his grandmother could do that!	Paul.Cov (425)
1153692	2010-11-19 10:20:00	Your friend must've had a cruisy tester, because these days the test involve much more than simply seeing if you can drive in a relaxed manner . They test you on specific things, some of these things can be dificult to pick up . The fact that you would tell someone to not worry and just drive, is indeed the worst piece of advice you could give a student driver . why dont you just go and tell a student pilot to just go with the flow and do what he feels like? This is the real world, and in the real world, there are real rules that MUST be followed for EVERYONE'S safety . I dont know how old you are or how long ago you took the restricted/full driving test, but before you suggest that one DISREGARDS THE LAW, you better be aware that bad advice can kill someone . If one comes to roadworks that are not signposted, it is THE LAW to slow down regardless . I'm not saying one must slam on their brakes so as to cause an accident it's pretty obvious that one should slow down carfully and again it is the law that one looks in their rear vision mirror before slowing down . Bottom line, before you give advice, about road safety, you better know the laws . you missed the bus completely or need to take the bus (bad pun intended) . THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN TAUGHT EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO KNOW BEFORE HAND . nothing you can say will change that . yes they test specific things . however the driver has already been taught those things and has been doing those things in their driving . so why try and make them over think the situations?? they are not going to remember ANYTHING that has been said here . they are relying on what they have been previously taught . there is nothing you or i can do about it . now the biggest cause of people stuffing things up is because they get nervous, try to remember bits and pieces which screws their concentration which makes them do the tasks incorrectly . hence they get failed . telling them a whole bunch of crap before they do a test serves only to make them nervous . hence the relax and go drive . the main thing is for them to relax and do exactly what they have been practising . the worse thing that can happen is their teacher didn't teach them something, they fail and have to go away, learn how to drive and repeat the test . a bit more practise and a bit more education is not really a bad thing to have before they get let loose on roads and start mixing it up with you and i . its not illegal to do full road speed through road works if thats the posted speed limit . there is no law requiring you to slow down . as i did mentioned before, you still have to be sensible and drive to the conditions, just like if there wasn't any road works . most importantly, if the road works are not signposted how do you know its road works ? most roads around here look like roadworks permanently . what are you going to do, slow down for every bit that might be roadworks ?? you would get overtaken by everybody, even run off the road, tons of angry people tooting at you and plenty reporting you to police as a drunk driver . you should never find roadworks that do not have a speed limit posted . the crews or traffic management have rules about what speed signs get put up, what distance they are from work site etc . sometimes you get crews who do it on the cheap and don't hire the signs etc . report them to police as its dangerous and illegal for them not to be signposted . i have had a couple of them myself over the years . also in a lot of cases the roadwork crews will finish for the day (or even part day), remove the signs and revert the speed limit back to normal so traffic is not unnecessarily inconvenienced . i have been driving through one like that for the last month . no one slows down unless its signposted, not even the cop car i was following . there is also no legal requirement for you to look in the mirror before slowing down . its a legal requirement for the car behind you to not hit you, not the other way around . it sounds like you have been inventing BS rules for yourself .	tweak'e (69)
1153693	2010-11-20 00:06:00	Yeah tweak'e is on to it here. Just be sensible. When I did my restricted I passed a vehicle on a double yellow line, which is illegal, and the tester didn't bat an eye.	roddy_boy (4115)
1153694	2010-11-20 00:26:00	When I did my restricted I passed a vehicle on a double yellow line, which is illegal, and the tester didn't bat an eye. That explains a lot given what I see often on the road! If you dont get picked up on that during your test then why worry about it later on when you got the piece of plastic that you think claims you can drive. Proves that the driver testing standard is a JOKE!!!:mad:	coldfront (15814)
1153695	2010-11-20 01:19:00	Pffft come on mate. Be realistic here. It was a tractor, in a 50kph area, no oncoming traffic, and everyone does it. Try get out of the city and drive on some real roads once in awhile.	roddy_boy (4115)
1153696	2010-11-21 11:25:00	Hey guys, I don't mean to start a fight here - I really do appreciate your time and advice. I am nervous yes, but to tell you the truth, chatting to you guys has given me a sense of confidence - I don't even know you, but it's true. I am not a teenager getting their license that's for sure, reason I never got it then was I never had the confidence, until now. So tomorrow, I've got the day off work and am going to the AA to fill out the papers and pay the whopping fee and make a date! Nervous? GOD YES! But I need to do this, I enjoy driving now, and just really want those 'L' plates off my freaking window! Thanks guys - appreciate you all! MDx	Miss Daisy (16080)
1153697	2010-11-21 21:59:00	Pffft come on mate. Be realistic here. It was a tractor, in a 50kph area, no oncoming traffic, and everyone does it. Try get out of the city and drive on some real roads once in awhile. No excuse not even on a 100kph road of which I do happen to drive mostly living in a RURAL Location and NOT in a city. So you think passing a bus travelling at 90kph on double yellows would be ok as well? I see that happening a lot. Seems to me you impatiant that you have to pass on double yellows in a 50kph area what else you not told us about the circumstances that allowed the tester to pass you for that infringement? Either way it is not ok to pass on double yellow lines if it can be avoided to do so.	coldfront (15814)
1153698	2010-11-21 22:03:00	Hey guys, I don't mean to start a fight here - I really do appreciate your time and advice . I am nervous yes, but to tell you the truth, chatting to you guys has given me a sense of confidence - I don't even know you, but it's true . I am not a teenager getting their license that's for sure, reason I never got it then was I never had the confidence, until now . So tomorrow, I've got the day off work and am going to the AA to fill out the papers and pay the whopping fee and make a date! Nervous? GOD YES! But I need to do this, I enjoy driving now, and just really want those 'L' plates off my freaking window! Thanks guys - appreciate you all! MDx If you got the confidence and do well because of it then it shows you listened . Just remeber passing the test is just the first step in a long road of driving . If people remebered what they had to do for the test they sure as hell would be better drivers if they continued that standard . Going to say this and admit that since being in New Zealand my driving standards have gone downhill .	coldfront (15814)
1153699	2010-11-21 22:04:00	No excuse not even on a 100kph road of which I do happen to drive mostly living in a RURAL Location and NOT in a city. So you think passing a bus travelling at 90kph on double yellows would be ok as well? I see that happening a lot. Seems to me you impatiant that you have to pass on double yellows in a 50kph area. Just because it's popular doesn't make it right: just because it's right doesn't make it popular. [/quoteoftheday]	pcuser42 (130)
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