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Thread ID: 114019	2010-11-15 04:43:00	Reggo rort?	Cicero (40)	PC World Chat

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1152966	2010-11-18 00:30:00	The diesel ute pays far more ACC because those vehicles are usually work vehicles and on the road more than the average person, thus a higher risk. : In fact I do more mileage than husbands ute. It's because diesel is cheaper - so they need to make their money back in other ways, like big regos and road user costs. Gets you in the end. Used to be cheaper - taking all that into account - once, but not now.	pctek (84)
1152967	2010-11-18 02:56:00	I think the ACC levy should be based on a user pay system. Maybe collected when you get a WOF, based on how many Ks you have done, and yes I'm aware that people would try too cheat the system. :) How would that work? I drive about 60K per year. To date, I have never had an accident and at the tender age of 55 have never been in a public hospital. Paid my fair share I think. I have a friend who was going down to the local shops, and got taken out by a bus. Nine weeks later he got out of hospital with an estimated bill of 1.1million for all the surgery and bed time. ACC is still paying for his treatment. He would be lucky if he drove 5k per year. The bottom line is that it costs $XXX per year to run ACC and so in some way, we all have to pay that. I can't see any way that it will ever be user pay or fair pay. Cheers	Happy Harry (321)
1152968	2010-11-18 03:05:00	They should scrap the rego acc and have a mileage tax like diesels, the more miles you do the more you pay And again. Why?? Just because you do more miles, this does not mean you are involved in more accidents. Generally, the more time you spend driving, the more experienced you get The chances of identifying a risky situation and reacting to it before it becomes a problem are greater. I consider myself an average driver but with vast experience. You almost develop a sixth sense of the plonkers who are going to do something wrong and thus avoid some horrible situations. I hate paying tax of any kind, but do believe that it is a necessary evil	Happy Harry (321)
1152969	2010-11-18 03:49:00	There's already an ACC levy on Petrol around 10c/litre. That's a mileage tax.	PaulD (232)
1152970	2010-11-18 04:18:00	It's because diesel is cheaper Not correct . I can't remember the exact difference but our Terrano registration is at least $100 cheaper than for a ute . As I said, utes are more likely to be used as work vehicles and thus higher mileage as opposed to a family vehicle . And again . Why?? Just because you do more miles, this does not mean you are involved in more accidents . It goes without saying that the more miles you do the greater the probability of being in an accident, whether caused by yourself or not, simply because you spend more time on the road .	FoxyMX (5)
1152971	2010-11-18 06:49:00	It goes without saying that the more miles you do the greater the probability of being in an accident, whether caused by yourself or not, simply because you spend more time on the road. HeyFoxyMX My argument is, The more miles you do, the more experience you have and so learn to avoid situations were a crash can occur. This then lowers the probability in having an accident, so the 2 variables even each other out. Its a theory and proven in my situation. Cheers HH	Happy Harry (321)
1152972	2010-11-18 07:03:00	I understand what you are saying HH but you can't always prevent other idiots from crashing into you, no matter how careful and experienced you are and the odds of that happening do increase the more you are on the road . For instance years ago my father was hit side on by a car whose driver pulled out in front of him after another car "waved him on" when exiting an intersection . He did his best to avoid the collision but did not have enough room to do so . It was his first and only prang in 40 years driving and he still has trouble with his shoulder and knee with the injuries suffered from that crash . Never say never . ;)	FoxyMX (5)
1152973	2010-11-18 08:23:00	How would that work? I drive about 60K per year. To date, I have never had an accident and at the tender age of 55 have never been in a public hospital. Paid my fair share I think. I have a friend who was going down to the local shops, and got taken out by a bus. Nine weeks later he got out of hospital with an estimated bill of 1.1million for all the surgery and bed time. ACC is still paying for his treatment. He would be lucky if he drove 5k per year. The bottom line is that it costs $XXX per year to run ACC and so in some way, we all have to pay that. I can't see any way that it will ever be user pay or fair pay. Cheers It works on the probability theory. The more Ks you do the more chances are that you will probably have an accident whether by your own doing or someone else's. Your friend was just very unlucky. :)	Trev (427)
1152974	2010-11-18 09:30:00	It goes without saying that the more miles you do the greater the probability of being in an accident, whether caused by yourself or not, simply because you spend more time on the road. I also disagree with that statement. Age, experiance and the ability to continue to recognise road hazzards and drive accordingly in addition to the conditions you drive in i.e. weather, road type and traffic volumes also contribute to the risk of having an accident. My point in that statement is I drive for a living and experiance all of those situations however the exposure to risk is higher when a third party (other road user) does something stupid that does not allow any chance to react in a safe manner. Experiance teaches you to avoid accidents and for me knowing the consequences having seen so many accidents as part of the rescue services that has an impact to make me not want to participate as a victim. It is called Defensive Driving!!! There is a thin line between experiance, confidence and just being a dick on the roads. Getting the balance right is key no matter how many miles you drive.	coldfront (15814)
1152975	2010-11-18 18:32:00	I still think $198 out of $287 is a rort!	Cicero (40)
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