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| Thread ID: 114194 | 2010-11-22 03:18:00 | Pike River Coal Mine | Digby (677) | PC World Chat |
| Post ID | Timestamp | Content | User | ||
| 1155473 | 2010-11-23 01:16:00 | Stop living in La La land. Go read your post #15 |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 1155474 | 2010-11-23 01:33:00 | I have and I have. You are just not prepared to face the horrible cold fact that there is no warm light at the end of the tunnel :( |
Zippity (58) | ||
| 1155475 | 2010-11-23 01:34:00 | As one that DID work in a coal mine in my younger life, a few facts : It's one of the most dangerous places on earth to work due to the natural occurence of methane and other gases within and around coal seams. I knew the risks when I did work there, but I was a student and needed the money for studies. Numerous accidents like this one have happened before, and in a lot of cases the proto teams (rescue teams) went in before making sure it's safe. Sadly a lot of proto teams were lost as well, due to this. I would like to think they've learnt their lesson. By the way, the Chilean mine rescue was possible because it was a gold/tin (?) mine, with no surrounding gases present. No amount of bores or whatever will alleviate the problem - you just create safe "pockets". I think they need to get the mine aeration system going before anything else, and that takes time. Sadly I don't think they miners are still alive - a methane explosion sucks all the oxygen out of the surrounding area so if you are not in the explosion, you can't breathe at all. Yes, methane detectors are being worn by everybody, but it's not a magic bullet, you just need one little pocket of gas and a little static electricity and you have a problem. My sincere condolences to the families and close friends. sarel |
sarel (2490) | ||
| 1155476 | 2010-11-23 01:52:00 | I have and I have. You are just not prepared to face the horrible cold fact that there is no warm light at the end of the tunnel :( There is an old saying. "You are better to let people think you are an idiot than to open your mouth(type) and confirm it." |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 1155477 | 2010-11-23 02:20:00 | As one that DID work in a coal mine in my younger life, a few facts : It's one of the most dangerous places on earth to work due to the natural occurence of methane and other gases ... The mine I worked in (see post #59 ) was hard rock. All the guys I worked with were older, in their 30's 40's and 50's, and had families. There were two coal mines within an hour or two from our mine. All of the guys said they would never work in coal mines, for the reason sarel gives, and also because coal-laden rock formations are inherently unstable compared to most hard rock mines. |
Strommer (42) | ||
| 1155478 | 2010-11-23 02:41:00 | There is an old saying. "You are better to let people think you are an idiot than to open your mouth(type) and confirm it." Your cliches are becoming very boring. Why are you making it so personal? |
Zippity (58) | ||
| 1155479 | 2010-11-23 02:43:00 | Bite me. " O_o Jen's not gonna be pleased." |
Strommer (42) | ||
| 1155480 | 2010-11-23 03:06:00 | " O_o Jen's not gonna be pleased. " We have to do something to make her day. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 1155481 | 2010-11-23 03:49:00 | I also removed my "BM" comments so as not to upset the lady Mod :) | Zippity (58) | ||
| 1155482 | 2010-11-23 03:49:00 | As one that DID work in a coal mine in my younger life, a few facts : It's one of the most dangerous places on earth to work due to the natural occurence of methane and other gases within and around coal seams. I knew the risks when I did work there, but I was a student and needed the money for studies. Numerous accidents like this one have happened before, and in a lot of cases the proto teams (rescue teams) went in before making sure it's safe. Sadly a lot of proto teams were lost as well, due to this. I would like to think they've learnt their lesson. By the way, the Chilean mine rescue was possible because it was a gold/tin (?) mine, with no surrounding gases present. No amount of bores or whatever will alleviate the problem - you just create safe "pockets". I think they need to get the mine aeration system going before anything else, and that takes time. Sadly I don't think they miners are still alive - a methane explosion sucks all the oxygen out of the surrounding area so if you are not in the explosion, you can't breathe at all. Yes, methane detectors are being worn by everybody, but it's not a magic bullet, you just need one little pocket of gas and a little static electricity and you have a problem. My sincere condolences to the families and close friends. sarel No more needs to be said here. :( |
Trev (427) | ||
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