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| Thread ID: 114194 | 2010-11-22 03:18:00 | Pike River Coal Mine | Digby (677) | PC World Chat |
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| 1155463 | 2010-11-22 23:46:00 | Sadly, they are kaput, dead, finished. Get over it. That is a disrespectful and inconsiderate statement. Do try to remember that the miners are human beings with families and friends. While it may be true that the probability is low of finding survivors after so long, in a mine full of toxic gas, miracles do happen. Few people thought that the Tasmanian miners were alive, and there have been other remarkable stories of survival in mines. |
Strommer (42) | ||
| 1155464 | 2010-11-22 23:48:00 | I am hoping that time will prove Zippity wrong. People have, in fact, survived for longer periods of time. | Snorkbox (15764) | ||
| 1155465 | 2010-11-22 23:53:00 | Some people on the radio are saying that if they sent in 20 rescuers and they caused an explosion there would be hell to pay. I don't think any of us here would send in 20. If I was in charge I would ask for volunteers and send in 2 or 3 on an exploratory mission only. They would report what the conditions were. |
Digby (677) | ||
| 1155466 | 2010-11-22 23:56:00 | Do try to remember that the miners are human beings with families and friends. As illustrated here; www.facebook.com |
ubergeek85 (131) | ||
| 1155467 | 2010-11-23 00:03:00 | Personally, I believe the best chance they had of success was immediately after the explosion. There was hardly likely to be much gas or oxygen around and although there would still have been dangers they would have been less than they are now. . This has already been explained to you a number of times. It has been proven numerous times that rushing in without identifying the hazards first is a sure fire way to kill the rescue team. They have proven this sadly by killing numerous rescuers. What you "personally believe" doesn't work out very well in the real world. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 1155468 | 2010-11-23 00:14:00 | O_o Jen's not gonna be pleased. |
xyz823 (13649) | ||
| 1155469 | 2010-11-23 00:15:00 | This has already been explained to you a number of times. It has been proven numerous times that rushing in without identifying the hazards first is a sure fire way to kill the rescue team. They have proven this sadly by killing numerous rescuers. What you "personally believe" doesn't work out very well in the real world. Well it worked in the real world in 1967 at the Strongman Mine Explosion. Explosion at 10am first victims brought out at 1pm On 19 January, 1967, just after 10:00 am, an explosion blew through the section of the mine known as Green's No 2 Rise. In seconds the fireball from the explosion fired through the section, killing 19 of the 240 men who were working in the mine at the time. Within four minutes other teams of miners had reached the tunnel leading to Green's section, but were driven back by poisonous gas and smoke. A full evacuation of the mine was ordered, and by 10:20 the police and medical teams had arrived. The rescue team, equipped with breathing packs, worked for 14 hours finding the bodies of the dead miners and bringing them to the surface on rail trucks. Often they had to dig their way through falls of coal and rock. Fire damp reached dangerous levels at times, increasing the risk of another explosion. The first bodies were brought to the surface at about 1:00 pm. Thirteen hours later the rescue work was held up while the air cleared, and by then 15 bodies had been found. |
Safari (3993) | ||
| 1155470 | 2010-11-23 00:17:00 | My havent things changed, a while a go a miner would be in charge of rescue operations and they would have raced into the mine in minutes even if they knew they would probaly die and you wouldn't be able to stop them. Same when poleizi let Indian shopkeep bled to death in South Auckland in the old days a plod would have tried to rescue the dude even if it meant certain death. Welcome to the Health and Safety era. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 1155471 | 2010-11-23 00:48:00 | My havent things changed, a while a go a miner would be in charge of rescue operations and they would have raced into the mine in minutes even if they knew they would probaly die and you wouldn't be able to stop them. Same when poleizi let Indian shopkeep bled to death in South Auckland in the old days a plod would have tried to rescue the dude even if it meant certain death. Welcome to the Health and Safety era. So true Pre. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 1155472 | 2010-11-23 00:57:00 | Stop living in La La land. | Zippity (58) | ||
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