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Thread ID: 114194 2010-11-22 03:18:00 Pike River Coal Mine Digby (677) PC World Chat
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1155643 2010-11-26 01:15:00 You need to calm down and read this answer in the context of the question.
Yes there is a Army base at Burnham
Yes a Helicopter could get from there to Pike in 90 minutes.

I commented on the fact I did not think staffing levels at Burnham would be viable for this.

I did not comment on the readiness or availability of any Helicopter as I have no idea what equipement they have there or have access too.

Exactly you just figured that it could be done when it was not possible to do.
coldfront (15814)
1155644 2010-11-26 01:25:00 Again read the question....
Where is the closest base = Burnham
Can a chopper get to Pike from Burnham in 90mins = Yes

Thats it, all I said, thats my answer and it is TRUE.
It does not take into account personnel (although I did comment on that)
It does not take into account the availability or suitability of any helicopter.

So stop putting words in my mouth and making inferrences that are not there.
DeSade (984)
1155645 2010-11-26 01:32:00 Interesting to hear two prominent Australian mining experts this am on National Radio, strongly supporting what was done at Pike River, particularly the decision not to send in rescue teams.

And later today, Supt Gary Knowles was applauded by family members when he addressed them.

On the one side we have the armchair non-experts B.M. and prefect, neither of whom have been to Pike River, or seen the inside of a coal mine. On the other hand, the two Ozzie mine experts (at least one of whom has been there throughout) and the families.

I should have thought that was QED...

Well it all gets down to which of these experts you believe.

I'm not purporting to being an expert on the subject but consideration of the evidence leaves me to believe more/something could have been done and in relative safety.

Unfortunately the country is run by the lily-livered. :rolleyes:
B.M. (505)
1155646 2010-11-26 01:45:00 Unfortunately the country is run by the lily-livered. :rolleyes:

And NOT the poofy Greens and idiotic morons that you support???
Zippity (58)
1155647 2010-11-26 02:09:00 For Christ sake - cant you lot give it a rest on and on and on, name calling and so on --:groan:

While every one is entitled to a comment, express their views, give it a bloody rest -- I've seen 5 year old school kids better behaved and better manners / respect.

What should have been done what was or wasn't done , its all to late now anyway.

Its bad enough that 29 people died in a tragic event without all the fighting.
wainuitech (129)
1155648 2010-11-26 02:42:00 For Christ sake - cant you lot give it a rest on and on and on, name calling and so on --:groan:

While every one is entitled to a comment, express their views, give it a bloody rest -- I've seen 5 year old school kids better behaved and better manners / respect .

What should have been done what was or wasn't done , its all to late now anyway .

Its bad enough that 29 people died in a tragic event without all the fighting .

Well don’t include me Wainui because I’ve resisted the temptation to respond in kind .

I have treated the matter like a Judge would in a Court Case . I’ve listened and considered both sides and formed the conclusion that more/something could have been done, but wasn’t!

Simple as that, although I don’t expect everyone to understand .

Judges and Jury’s are rarely experts in the case before them and have to rely on the evidence put before them .

Of course you are entitled to form your own opinion, but in this case we have a hung jury .
B.M. (505)
1155649 2010-11-26 02:45:00 I have treated the matter like a Judge would in a Court Case. I’ve listened and considered both sides and formed the conclusion that more/something could have been done, but wasn’t!

:clap:clap:clap:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Time this thread is closed.
Zippity (58)
1155650 2010-11-26 02:54:00 Can you people stop going on about these dead people!

they are dead! there is nothing we can do about it!

Why argue? the damage has already been done. No point in arguing, its not gonna bring them back.
goodiesguy (15316)
1155651 2010-11-26 02:59:00 I have treated the matter like a Judge would in a Court Case.

So a judge forms his own deluded ignorant opion, defends it to the death even in the overwhelming of real world experts (including those running the operation), and when proven so utterly wrong he couldn't have been more wrong he pats himself on the back for being right.

Doesn't bode well for our judges.....
Metla (12)
1155652 2010-11-26 04:13:00 Been a third explosion down there now. Pity B.M. was not there helping out at the time. Snorkbox (15764)
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