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| Thread ID: 114194 | 2010-11-22 03:18:00 | Pike River Coal Mine | Digby (677) | PC World Chat |
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| 1155603 | 2010-11-25 07:14:00 | Perhaps B.M. you could do something actually useful now like popping down to your local Westpac, ANZ etc and making a donation to the families that have lost the breadwinner. It's what I intend to do tomorrow. |
Snorkbox (15764) | ||
| 1155604 | 2010-11-25 08:41:00 | Another theory is the hole they bored actually helped facilitate the second explosion by causing a draft effect. Sounds reasonable to me. I have manfully resisted the temptation to enter the substantive areas of this thread, crowded as it has been with mining and underground rescue experts plus a few wannabe heroes with giant kahunas thrown in for good measure, but I have to say that a 150mm hole of considerable length would hardly cause a roaring draft, and especially so given that there was nothing happening to promote an outflow via the entrance and other much larger ventilation shafts. The people on site have far greater knowledge of the issues, risks and opportunities than a bunch of keyboard thumping self-appointed 'experts' and I was also very impressed indeed with the performance of the mine manager, who had more knowledge and wisdom in his little finger, and humanity in his bearing, than any of the galahs mouthing off here and in the media. Getting in probably wasn't the issue; being able to sustain life in any miner they found while carrying him a couple of kilometres through poisonous atmosphere to get him out, then doing that trip another 20 or so times might have been a significant factor. That another explosion did occur is ample proof of the dangers of precipitous action. Billy |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 1155605 | 2010-11-25 09:13:00 | You are not looking good BM. Can we expect a retraction soon? |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 1155606 | 2010-11-25 09:16:00 | Is that after renouncing their membership of the communist National party first? :confused: The icon says it all,you are indeed confused,I think there is a lack of oxygen down those caves. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 1155607 | 2010-11-25 09:23:00 | You will be waiting a long time for that, they just slide back under their rocks, or join the labour party. What is the relevance of your snide remark about the Labour party? On second thoughts why do I bother to ask a prat like you who tries to score cheap political points out of such a tragic event |
martynz (5445) | ||
| 1155608 | 2010-11-25 09:24:00 | We were told tonight that the methane drainage system was ruptured (well into the mine) by the first explosion.Methane and other toxins were gathering at a vast rate immediately. It is highly likely that all 29 were dead within minutes of the explosion. There was then no window of opportunity: there was no mistake made by Mines rescue/police. Mr Watt on TV Closeup tonight made it clear that there was no way men could go in the mine. BM has been writing tripe and it is now time for him to retract and apologise to those he has maligned. |
leonidas5 (2306) | ||
| 1155609 | 2010-11-25 09:51:00 | Chances are they won't be seeking your consultation on the next rescue mission either. Personally I think those involved in the running this operation deserve some respect, especially the cop in charge, what they had to do would have been incredibly hard (indeed beyond the scope of more limited people) but they played it well. I have been searching my heart for a reply to this topic and each time I have simply deleted before posting but you have said pretty much sums it up for me. I have access to some information about the rescue effort from minute one which I am not permitted to disclose or will ever do no matter how provoked. Suffice to say the initial response was as fast as was possible given the information at the time and the location of the mine in relation to rescuers. However there was no way possible to do that any quicker given the location. We take for granted how sparsly populated our country is and how difficult it is to get from one place to another quickly. Yet we expect the emergency services to get to our distress in the click of our fingers, like we percieve the reaction is overseas or in the city. Maybe because I know this is why I can understand why it took so long and why they missed that window of opportunity to get some one in before the gasses built up again. I set this challenge to the would be rescue experts before and will do it again! You think you can do better or make a differance join a Rescue Organisation. Make a differance be a hero and live to save many lives, losing someone you are trying to save is one of the hardest things to endured and something thankfully I do not see often. Maybe when you have been in that situation you will understand better what happened in the last few days. God rest their souls |
coldfront (15814) | ||
| 1155610 | 2010-11-25 09:59:00 | Personally I think those involved in the running this operation deserve some respect, especially the cop in charge, what they had to do would have been incredibly hard (indeed beyond the scope of more limited people) but they played it well. Couldn't have put it better, have to agree. |
Twelvevolts (5457) | ||
| 1155611 | 2010-11-25 11:26:00 | Perhaps Digby could be lumped in with B.M. as well and kindly make a donation to the families? | Snorkbox (15764) | ||
| 1155612 | 2010-11-25 17:25:00 | Yes a donation would be in order. :) However, let me share with you hand wringing OSH disciples an E-Mail I received from Australia. It Reads: Is it true that Lifesavers in New Zealand aren’t allowed to enter the water if there’s any Surf? |
B.M. (505) | ||
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