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| Thread ID: 114142 | 2010-11-19 16:57:00 | NZ Mine Explosion | SurferJoe46 (51) | PC World Chat |
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| 1154736 | 2010-11-21 03:04:00 | No data from 1974-1998 then? No data yet for that period but I’m on the case. :D However, this from the link Metla kindly provided. www.imagef1.net.nz Unbelievable. Given that safety is 99.9% common sense, we must now have the dumbest workforce ever. :groan: |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1154737 | 2010-11-21 03:36:00 | No data yet for that period but I’m on the case. :D However, this from the link Metla kindly provided. www.imagef1.net.nz Unbelievable. Given that safety is 99.9% common sense, we must now have the dumbest workforce ever. :groan: The only relevant number is the amount per 1000 workers, and seeing as they give no further information you can't draw any conclusion from that alone. The work force has increased massively over the last 20 years so we need the ratio of incidents to workers to see if the amount of incidents has increased or decreased. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 1154738 | 2010-11-21 04:06:00 | Newstalk ZB Hour 49 NZ Herald says the new shaft they are drilling may be finished this evening or it may take two days ? (dur) It is going to be about 150 metres deep. Why not just tell us how far they have got so far ! Have they started ? What is the rock like ? The man in charge of the rescue unit says the walk into the mine two kilometres may take two hours as the floor may be uneven ! and they have to get past a loader ! How does he know if the floor is going to be uneven for 2 k's ! Surely it should be fairly even if they planned to get the coal out on a railways etc. And how big is this loader that it will take 2 hours to get round. |
Digby (677) | ||
| 1154739 | 2010-11-21 04:36:00 | Suggest you ring up Newstalk and tell them you know better, that the mine rescue experts are miles away in the estimation of the hazards and potential time frame. Go on, do it, They need people like yourself to crawl out of the woodwork.... |
Metla (12) | ||
| 1154740 | 2010-11-21 04:41:00 | The only relevant number is the amount per 1000 workers, and seeing as they give no further information you can't draw any conclusion from that alone. The work force has increased massively over the last 20 years so we need the ratio of incidents to workers to see if the amount of incidents has increased or decreased. But surely 224,900 “Work Force Accidents” in one year is outrageous by any standards. That number of ACC claims would still be outrageous for the entire population, not just the Workforce. Struth, the buggers that live in minefields overseas have less accidents. I wonder how many accidents we’d have if we pulled the plug on ACC? :confused: |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1154741 | 2010-11-21 04:46:00 | The work force gets damaged in various ways including car accidents, playing rugby etc. It does not say all accidents happen at work does it!!! Obviously you would be a very fit person spending all that time jumping to conclusions as you do. Add 2 + 2 you will find it's not = 5. |
Snorkbox (15764) | ||
| 1154742 | 2010-11-21 05:35:00 | Newstalk ZB Hour 49 NZ Herald says the new shaft they are drilling may be finished this evening or it may take two days ? (dur) It is going to be about 150 metres deep . Why not just tell us how far they have got so far ! Have they started ? What is the rock like ? The man in charge of the rescue unit says the walk into the mine two kilometres may take two hours as the floor may be uneven ! and they have to get past a loader ! How does he know if the floor is going to be uneven for 2 k's ! Surely it should be fairly even if they planned to get the coal out on a railways etc . And how big is this loader that it will take 2 hours to get round . The guy has been down the mine . . . . the coal is transported out from the coal face by conveyor belt which can be seen on the left hand side when they show the mineshaft . Try walking uphill with rescue gear and in a hazmat type suit with breathing apparatus and see how long it takes . . . . it's not a gentle walk along the beach on a summers afternoon . I can, for the most part, see their reasoning . . . however . . . I'd let 1 volunteer go in with all the gear and communications . . . but remember also that you can't use a cellphone at a petrol station because of the risk of explosion . Forcing more into the mine may create a more explosive methane / air mix and assist any fire that may still be smouldering . Don't like the attitude of the top cop . . . but it wont just be him that's making the decisions . |
SP8's (9836) | ||
| 1154743 | 2010-11-21 05:41:00 | I certainly pleased the real experts are in charge of this operation and not some of the self appointed experts on here. | Twelvevolts (5457) | ||
| 1154744 | 2010-11-21 05:45:00 | but remember also that you can't use a cellphone at a petrol station because of the risk of explosion.. That old wives tail was debunked years ago buy US and British researches. |
paulw (1826) | ||
| 1154745 | 2010-11-21 05:47:00 | That old wives tail was debunked years ago buy US and British researches. mythbusters also.... |
Metla (12) | ||
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