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Thread ID: 114245	2010-11-24 03:58:00	Pike River Latest. All Miners Dead.	Trev (427)	PC World Chat

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1156079	2010-11-24 19:24:00	Exactly, for those who don't know the coast it would have been just about impossible. It would have taken longer to assemble the soldiers and fly them there with al the kit that would be needed. And for Goodyguy there are no living hero's you don't become a hero if you survive Thought that maori VC holder was a hero.?	Cicero (40)
1156080	2010-11-24 19:25:00	I don't know about you, but I still want to have a little bit of optimism....if two miners survived the initial explosion, the remaining 29 could have survived the second.Right from the start there was too much co-incidence going on for anyone else to survive. Too many guys happened to be off that day, then the 2 who walked out. But that was just my gut feeling about it all. I would have loved for them all to have gotten out. My family also has a past in coal mining - Nightcaps/Ohai and chances are the miner from Wairio was known to family as well (I remember as a kid spending time with my grand-uncle at his place in Wairio). To all the families - my condolences. And may they R.I.P. Lets hope they still recover the bodies	Myth (110)
1156081	2010-11-24 19:35:00	Exactly, for those who don't know the coast it would have been just about impossible. It would have taken longer to assemble the soldiers and fly them there with al the kit that would be needed. And for Goodyguy there are no living hero's you don't become a hero if you survive X2 A good idea would have been to have shown a video of just how they drive into the Pike River mine site. A drive from Greymouth with video camera going would show that the road is not exactly like SH1. I know it's hard to visualise, but that would give some indication to those who might be interested. West Coasters don't see themselves as heroes. They are just modest, ordinary, hard working people who have had to be tough. With hearts and minds, the same as most New Zealanders. Personally, I think they are extraordinary people. RIP 29 miners; and my condolences to all the families involved.	Marnie (4574)
1156082	2010-11-24 19:37:00	I had an uncle who was an engineer in the Blackball coal mine until it closed in the late 60s. He retired and passed away a couple of years ago. He was still pretty fit. I went down and visited him in Blackball on numerous occasions. He was an outdoors man. We use to do a bit of gold prospecting in different locations. We also visited different coal mines and one of the highlites was when we did a tour of the Strongman mine in 1975. Have been to a few other coal mines as will. A couple worth mentioning are the Denniston Mine and the Waiuta gold mine. RIP the Pike River men. :(	Trev (427)
1156083	2010-11-24 19:58:00	R.I.P. to the Pike River men and condolences to their families. @ Trev, just watched a dvd "On Denniston", very good, hard life up there	Whenu (9358)
1156084	2010-11-24 21:52:00	Poem from Gary McCormick on Stuff (ex Dom Post): SEVENTEEN (In memory of Joseph Ray Dunbar and all those who died in the Pike River Mine.) Joseph Ray Dunbar was just seventeen. One week ago - turned seventeen. No doubt had a few drinks out with his mates. He'd been through a rough patch, someone said. Who doesn't??! A boy from the Coast, even-eyed. But he's gotten a job now. New boots. The making of him, someone said. You get a lot of respect with a job. Couldn't wait! Probably had his lunch packed. The unlined face, the big smile. Probably had a way with the girls. The local girls. Couldn't wait! The local girls are wearing black. Mothers and sons and husbands too. He probably ran the last hundred yards.... Joseph Ray Dunbar. Climbed aboard and headed on down. A smile and a wave and a joke amongst men. The biggest day of Joseph's life. You caught the train, Joseph. You took the train too soon. You caught the train before your time.	John H (8)
1156085	2010-11-25 08:56:00	Thought that maori VC holder was a hero.? Willy can't have been that much of a hero to you if you can't even remember his name.	--Wolf-- (128)
1156086	2010-11-25 09:06:00	Willy can't have been that much of a hero to you if you can't even remember his name. He did what he had to do. Like we all do.	Cicero (40)
1156087	2010-11-25 20:03:00	Yes you just have to be in the right place at the right time. :)	Trev (427)
1156088	2010-11-26 01:33:00	The past week I worked alongside a guy who was on and off the phone to the people at the mine helping with the huge amount of knowledge he seems to have. He has in the past helped clear the gas out of mines and often manages fires (or heating as they refer to it in the industry) by blast nitrogen into the tunnels and keeping the fire at bay. His opinion, which was more or less the same as those he talked to at the mine, was that if the initially blast had not killed them, then the gas building up from the coal would have well and truely sent them to sleep (in a peaceful way from my understanding) long before the heat would rise to the 400 odd degrees it would take to ignite the methane. Im not an expert at all but talking to this guy who I know is an expert it sounds like however they died it would of been painless. If anything it's a comforting thought. The only thing funny about the whole thing is the rubbish robots they were sending down. Before sending a robot underground I would have thought it'd make sense to waterproof it and at least have a decent battery. RIP	hueybot3000 (3646)
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