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1194878 2011-04-17 04:25:00 I bought an all-in-one - specifically to put in the kitchen and use for recipes and also the missus checks her e-mail and stuff on it.

It doesn't get any intensive use, I have another desktop in the study for that.

For what I wanted it for, it's perfect. But then again I am never intending on upgrading or pushing it to do stuff outside it's capabilities.

As long as you know the limitations and it suits your planned usage then go for it. Takes up a lot less room.
Tukapa (62)
1194879 2011-04-17 04:34:00 You could build a really well spec PC yourself for those prices. mikebartnz (21)
1194880 2011-04-17 10:54:00 You could build a really well spec PC yourself for those prices.

Yes, if I knew what I was doing and looking for but I don't have the foggiest where to start...
globe (11482)
1194881 2011-04-17 11:32:00 Yes, if I knew what I was doing and looking for but I don't have the foggiest where to start...
Where do you live as someone close by might help you.
You decide if you want to use any parts from your old PC. e.g. mouse,keyboard, screen, hard drive, DVD drive. Then decide what CPU you want. Generally AMD are cheaper but Intel are slightly better and then choose a motherboard to go with it and the memory.
It is not too difficult and very satisfying. Just remember that if you decide to do it yourself that static is bad news for parts like CPU and memory.
mikebartnz (21)
1194882 2011-04-17 11:59:00 Intel are better only at the moment...

I would never by an all-in-one unless I had a very good reason to such as very limited space (and in that case I'd probably get a laptop so I'd have the bonus of portability)

Slower performance and harder upgrades\repairs are the main problems...


Build one yourself or with a friend, or get a decent PC shop to custom build one for you. You will get the best price, performance and quality that way.

Make sure you buy it from a shop that doesn't sell Hyena PSUs.
Agent_24 (57)
1194883 2011-04-17 12:06:00 So I've had a bit of a squish around computer lounge and it seems they just list the parts for you, and then you can put it together yourself or they can do it for you.

I've also looked at parts and its just a confusing myriad of options out there. If I wanted to research it myself and put it together rather than rely of CL then any suggestions of where to start - or is it easier to just let them spec it then build it yourself ?

One last question - email, web browsing, odd photo mods, itunes, and infrequent gaming (maybe will get more if machine is good enough) - how much should one allow for a set up like that ? $1000, 1200 or 1500 ?? Cheers (and I know its a bit of a how long is a piece of string question)

Need everything replaced - except for keyboard but they're only $30 anyway !!!
globe (11482)
1194884 2011-04-17 12:29:00 I notice at computer lounge the ZEN is $1599 GST incl with 5% off when purchased online and 159 reward dollars which equals $15.90 to spend on your next purchase mikebartnz (21)
1194885 2011-04-17 17:17:00 Hi Globe,

Just a few quick questions, and comments:

1) Where are you putting your new computer? Unless under special circumstances, $1700 for that performance is ripoff, especially when you don't need its space-saving-ness. Period.

2) Computer buying is all about compromises. If someone needs an office computer but has unlimited budget, that person's asking for a heavily overkilled config. So, rather, how much would you like to spend? (But I'd say no less than $800, if you wish to include monitor and a copy of W7)

3) If you want to write your own config, the place to start with would be CPU.
I won't start on the tips, because they'll be far too long. But eventually you determine which motherboard you're getting, and which graphics card would "match" the CPU's performance.

4) Please define what "games" would you be playing, because some games tax the system much more heavily than others. For example, Grand Theft Auto IV runs faster on a quad core CPU with lower graphics than a dual-core with better graphics; in many cases it's the converse.

PersonallyI'd go for a Radeon HD5770 if you're playing most mainstream games but doesn't mind a bit less graphics quality (of which I seldom recognise), and GTX460 (1GB version) or HD6850 if you want to play current games at max settings, and can last for a leap in PC performance or two. But I'd recommend a HD5770, or HD5750; I assume for your use GTX460 and HD6850 are a bit overkill-ish.

5) One of the common misunderstanding among users is that peripherals don't matter. In fact, they DO matter. A lot. It's definitely worth it to get a mouse that is light and fits your hand, comfortable keyboards and monitor that looks nice. You'll notice the difference, and never want to go back to your budget kits.


Sorry for the long reply; I guess I need more sleep to cut the length down to a more manageable level :)
LynX (14542)
1194886 2011-04-18 00:40:00 All in ones are very hard to impossible to upgrade.

change that to
All in ones are very hard and very expensive to repair
A monitor fault may write off the whole thing
A motherboard fault may write off the whole thing
It will be built with non-standard parts
1101 (13337)
1194887 2011-04-18 01:30:00 It wouldn't be any worse to repair than a laptop, but as you say, a screen or motherboard issue may be a big problem

(Unless they used a mATX board or something, would be easy to fit inside the back of a large monitor case)
Agent_24 (57)
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