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Thread ID: 117484 2011-04-20 22:58:00 How does DNS work if no box to enter addresses? BBCmicro (15761) Press F1
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1195966 2011-04-21 01:04:00 There's no physical WAN port but perhaps a LAN port could auto-configure as one? with MDI/MDIXNope - MDI/MDI-X relates to the physical wiring used in the cable to connect to the port (straight or crossover), and has nothing to do with what the port is used for. Most home networking devices manufactured in the last few years will support this on all ports.


I'm thinking the lack of WAN port is so that the two hardware units can be physically identical. That would be a siginificant cost saving. (There's a label on each unit showing which end the unit is pre-configured for). Plus Netcomm would save on the cost of the physical WAN socketNope - the lack of a WAN port is because the NP-121 is not a router, and therefore has no use for such a port. You *cannot* connect multiple devices to the internet using only the NP-121 and a TelstraClear cable modem; you need a router as well.

I can't help but think that you've bought the wrong product here. If you ask nicely, Ascent may allow you to return it and purchase something that actually does what you need.
Erayd (23)
1195967 2011-04-21 01:15:00 a plain modem is no good on its own; you need a router as well.

I was beginning to think that, with 3 experts now suggesting it.

The public can be forgiven for thinking that a modem and a router are the same thing but a professional crowd like Netcomm should get it right.

(I'm reminded of people who think the epicentre of an earthquake can be 10km deep. I forgive them but I don't forgive the TV professionals who make the same mistake)
BBCmicro (15761)
1195968 2011-04-21 01:27:00 The public can be forgiven for thinking that a modem and a router are the same thing but a professional crowd like Netcomm should get it right.Indeed :thumbs:. The same can be said for the term 'access point' - it's been abused to the point where most people think that an AP is also a router, and possibly a modem as well.

Out of interest, what was your reason for replacing the DI-524? If you were happy with it, then you could set your network up as follows:
+----------------+ +------------+
| Cable Modem |-----WAN-| DI-524 |
+----------------+ +-----+------+
|
LAN
|
|
+------------+
| NP-121 |
+------------+
Note that the WAN / LAN labels above refer to the ports on the DI-524.

This would give you the speed benefits of the 802.11n wireless provided by the NP-121, while also meaning you don't need to buy another gadget. IP addresses would be assigned for the entire network (including the part of it that uses the NP-121) by the DI-524, and that's also where your DNS settings would go.

Obviously this assumes that you were happy with the routing job of the DI-524 - my experience with them is that they're not great under heavy load, but OK for light tasks.
Erayd (23)
1195969 2011-04-21 01:42:00 Out of interest, what was your reason for replacing the DI-524?

It doesn't have 'n' written on it...

I like your network plan - yes that's what I will do:thanks

(I hope I can turn off the DI-524's wireless)
BBCmicro (15761)
1195970 2011-04-21 01:48:00 It doesn't have 'n' written on it...:D


I hope I can turn off the DI-524's wirelessYep, you can - there's an option in the settings for this.
Erayd (23)
1195971 2011-04-21 06:59:00 Like I said in my post on your previous thread, what comes out of a Motorola modem is a WAN connection looking for a WAN address as supplied by telstra, what comes out of an ADSL modem or a stand alone router is a LAN connection looking for other LAN connections. Thats why stand alone routers have a WAN port. There is nowhere in the NP121 to specify a fixed WAN IP address or a DNS address.
In a cable modem -> PC connection they are specified in the PC and in a cable modem -> router -> PC they are specified in the router, the router then issues LAN addresses to all of the connected LAN ports.
jinja_thom (4306)
1195972 2011-04-23 08:11:00 Just to end the saga, I set up the NP121 wireless bridge as per Erayd's diagram and it worked perfectly .

I have 4 devices connected to the remote unit, a TV and 3 media players . To test the NP121, I set one of the media players going on an internet radio station, another on a Youtube video, and the TV on another Youtube video . No stuttering at all .

Some things I like about the NP121:
- everything comes up correctly when I turn on the main power switch which also starts the cable modem and router
- it can be set up without connecting to the remote unit
- the defaults worked perfectly
- the AP unit comes with a pre-chosen replaceable WAP2 password string . You push the button on the AP unit and you have 2 min to push the button on the bridge client . That's all . I hadn't met this before

The hard part (for me or the general public) would be setting the unit's LAN address . And optimisation of the wireless stuff if needed . My network doesn't seem to need it
BBCmicro (15761)
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