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Thread ID: 114668	2010-12-12 20:00:00	IT students	Nomad (952)	PC World Chat

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1161192	2010-12-13 00:20:00	I've marked assignments for a university course. I found some code copied off the internet. I noted this to the course supervisor and the students were given 0. If you let this pass, then it reduces the value of the diploma. If they are willing to compromise their quality of their students all for money, it calls into question the value of having graduated from there.	utopian201 (6245)
1161193	2010-12-13 00:37:00	I feel for you Nomad 'cos I've had to face something like this. Two questions: 1) Are these assessments/assignments run under NCEA protocols? 2) Are you a member of a professional organization (union)?	tuiruru (12277)
1161194	2010-12-13 00:53:00	He is not a teacher, he is THE student... Universities and other tertiary institutions pass as many students as possible, plagiarism isn't a big concern for people running level 4/5 communication papers.	Cato (6936)
1161195	2010-12-13 01:02:00	If they institutions are not using turnitin, it's their problem. Everything at most universities should go through it, problems are picked up and people get done for plagiarism.	Cato (6936)
1161196	2010-12-13 01:03:00	Whoops! And anyway, "1) Are these assessments/assignments run under NCEA protocols?" should have read "1) Are these assessments/assignments run under NZQA protocols?" "Universities and other tertiary institutions pass as many students as possible, plagiarism isn't a big concern for people running level 4/5 communication papers." may be the current modus operandi but that still doesn't make either bit of that statement right or ethical.	tuiruru (12277)
1161197	2010-12-13 01:19:00	Pass rates = funding. Everything gets a lot tougher starting next year. This year I have seen a lot of people being kicked out. Next year they are limiting intakes whether this is official or not, I can't say, but it is happening. Foundation courses in particular are taking the big hits as are people trying to get in via the over 20 adult admission. I have seen a lot of people pass due to butt kissing of lecturers. Everything is taken into consideration and in the end it is the paper coordinators who have the last say, so long as you have done decently in over 40 worth of course work (or the lecturer thinks well of you), lecturers have the final say as they pass their opinions down to the examination board and whatever they say is usually taken as is. The lesser the qualification the more inclined the lecturers are to give some leeway.	Cato (6936)
1161198	2010-12-13 02:42:00	Pass rates = funding....... .......The lesser the qualification the more inclined the lecturers are to give some leeway. And therein lies a whole new debate/thread! :rolleyes:	tuiruru (12277)
1161199	2010-12-13 04:20:00	I've marked assignments for a university course. I found some code copied off the internet. I noted this to the course supervisor and the students were given 0 Somewhat off topic and I admit knowing next to nothing about code or writing software .... but how many different ways are there to write code to obtain a specific result ? Is it not possible that more than one student uses the same taught process to work out what is required ... I'm assuming that if (for example) 100 students were being taught to write code in a specific way (as per a universal method taught in all schools, polytechs, uni's) then the chances of two or more students writing identical code is not beyond the realms of possibility ... whether they are in the same school, city, country. Just wonderin' is all ..... :D	SP8's (9836)
1161200	2010-12-13 04:23:00	I would doubt the code would be identical even to the choice of names for variables etc unless copied!	Snorkbox (15764)
1161201	2010-12-13 05:14:00	I would doubt the code would be identical even to the choice of names for variables etc unless copied! On large projects probably not, but for day to day assignments, a lot of people will follow the conventions used by their tutors & produce exactly the same code as each other.	Greven (91)
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