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Thread ID: 114762	2010-12-16 01:50:00	US's Third War	SurferJoe46 (51)	PC World Chat

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1162393	2010-12-16 01:50:00	I mentioned the problem with the Mexican Sinaloan 'La Familia' & Frontera Drug cartels and their forays onto US soil to seek revenge and generally create terror in the people who live near the US/Mexican border. California borders the Mexican State of Frontera. Here's a couple of articles from today's new about that same thing. Texas Strikes Back in Fight Against Mexican Drug Cartels (www.foxnews.com) Border Patrol Agent Killed in Southern Arizona (www.foxnews.com) Mass Grave Site on the Border Highlights Level of Violence (www.foxnews.com) Mexican Judge Absolves Reputed Drug Cartel 'Queen' (www.foxnews.com) Mexican Drug Cartel Chief Believed Killed (www.foxnews.com) NOTE: Most trials in Mexico are conducted in writing, offering little insight into the process. That is something the country is changing through a sweeping U.S.-backed reform that will institute oral trials and transform Mexico's inquisitorial judicial system into an accusatorial one. The Mexican government frequently touts arrests of drug gang suspects, often parading the most-wanted ones before the cameras. But records obtained by The Associated Press show that three-quarters of those arrested for drug crimes during the administration of President Felipe Calderon have been let go. The U.S. lamented Mexico's dysfunctional judicial system in a Jan. 29 diplomatic cable released Thursday by the Wikileaks website, noting: "Prosecution rates for organized crime-related offenses are dismal; 2 percent of those detained are brought to trial."	SurferJoe46 (51)
1162394	2010-12-16 01:54:00	You had better grab your favourite gun and join some of those ranchers in Arizona see if you can bag some mexicans	prefect (6291)
1162395	2010-12-16 14:29:00	Don't have to go to Arizona - we had a quad-decapitation right here where I live within 400 yards or our home in SoCal. One can see that the cartel hitmen are everywhere and deeply embedded in the US society anyway. Methinks that the genie is already out of da bottle and it ain't going back. There have been Mexican hits in Chicago, Miami (of course), Alaska and Washington state. I'll let the cops handle it, as I'm not worried about them since I don't deal or cook.	SurferJoe46 (51)
1162396	2010-12-16 17:45:00	Hey Joe Its a chicken and egg situation. If Americans stopped using drugs, the Mexican and Colombian cartels would have no-one to sell to and they would disappear. And I also wonder why there are not more vigilante groups on that border. The US government is clearly not going to do much. How is that wall going ?	Digby (677)
1162397	2010-12-16 19:26:00	The great wall of ch...er I mean america?	rob_on_guitar (4196)
1162398	2010-12-16 19:36:00	Just legalise the drugs. :pf1mobmini:	CYaBro (73)
1162399	2010-12-16 19:36:00	The 'wall' is a giant joke. It has holes in it bigger that a freeway with 12-lanes. They (who?) could shut it down so tight that a bilabial fricative from a mouse would be detected, but 'they' don't want to. It's not for the olde saw of 'cheap labor that Americans won't do' - it's the money that is collected from illegal workers with fake credentials. After the whole year of paying into Social Security, MediCare (or MediLal in California) and Workman's Compensation and FICA and State and local payroll taxes, they can't file for a refund since their ID numbers are all fake. Where's all the money going? This is millions and millions of dollars every year! This is never accounted for and I can just bet that someone is getting secret plain brown envelopes with cash in them.	SurferJoe46 (51)
1162400	2010-12-16 19:40:00	Just legalise the drugs . :pf1mobmini: This is another one of those things that gets talked about all the time and never gets resolved nor are there any real moves in any direction . See my post above and you'll see there are fatter pigs eating at the trough than legalizing grass and soft drugs . Whereas with the taxes and fees that could be levied on marijuana, it would be more publicly transparent and the monies would be much more easily accounted for than putting an envelope full of greenbacks into one's vest pocket .	SurferJoe46 (51)
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