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Thread ID: 114830	2010-12-19 02:36:00	We need more people here	Digby (677)	PC World Chat

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1163302	2010-12-21 06:58:00	Too crowded. NZ has a hopeless development and subdivision policy. Lots of new "suburbia" type places springing up. When I moved down to wellington 13 years ago the development across the valley was nowhere to be seen. just lots of pasture. Now the sad sack and environment hating developer is slapping up hedious town houses all over the darned hill. lopping the tops off ridges and piping every stream, filling every gully. now this "development" covers the whole opposite side of the valley. Apparently the farm land just north of Plimmerton is slated for development into a "city" F*** that! Another sprawling mass of suburbia Now the council want to put a motorway across the farm and through (literally through) my other house. Not a fan of development atm, also the economy can't support lots of development	The Error Guy (14052)
1163303	2010-12-21 08:59:00	also the environment can't support lots of development Fixed for you. :D	qazwsxokmijn (102)
1163304	2010-12-21 09:11:00	What pisses me off about New Zealand is how with such few people we do have we still repeat the mistakes of other countrys in the destruction of the enviroment in ways you probably never gave consideration to. I moved away from urban sprawl and the bright lights to what a thought would be quite rural village. Yes its quite and was a place where you were not dazzled by bright city lights! Then some prick in the council decided the street lights needed upgrading instead of doing that and putting 3 additional ones for safety they managed to add 11 more and only one of those where the village wanted it. I used to have a nice dark section with the backside of a streetlight that was not a bother now got 8 of the ****ers visible and direct light from one of them illuminating the entire section :stare: Complained to the council! Got the response it is inline with goverment street lighting standards...wtf...they could not even find me the legislation regarding this standard. Great solution provided use vegetation to hide them...erm what trees can I get that grow 5 metres in a year???? In other words live with it we dont care we live somewhere else! and the best part about it is the person responsible in the council for authorising this objected to Streetlight upgrades on a section of highway near where she lives :rolleyes: Next thing you hear is the Mayor of the district banging on about the unspoilt natural beauty of the area!!!! So what does more people mean? More problems although with 4 million we still are doing a damn good job of ruining what we have.	coldfront (15814)
1163305	2010-12-22 22:31:00	[QUOTE=qazwsxokmijn;977360]What has been spent in the last 100 years in retrieving oil? Billions probably . Environmental damage as a result of retrieval, leaks and use of oil? Untold billions and billions of dollars, obviously much larger than the cost of retrieving and refining as it's a huge profitable business . What's this planting in the Sahara you speak of? Sounds genuinely interesting . But then again, to grow plants in a naturally hostile environment will require laborious and expensive consistent maintenance that in the long run may prove more uneconomical than leaving the initial problem alone . Not only that, the resources required for such projects (i . e . , water in this case) is limited and it won't be long till water sources dip dangerously low or becomes depleted altogether, which in itself will be extensively damaging for any ecosystem that depends on that water source (and that includes any humans living within the water source's vicinity) . Are they really talking about transporting water from the Manapouri river to the Middle East??? That's insane! Rivers are the 'veins' if you will of the planet, carrying water from mountains to the ocean, allowing life to flourish along their routes . Starving a river of its water is akin to starving certain parts of your body of blood which could lead to things like gangrene, because there is no flow of water (or blood in our case) that keeps the surrounding habitats alive (or tissues, in our case) . Don't get me wrong though, I'm not what you'd call a total nuthead greenie; I'm a self taught thinker . No doubt my mind has been shaped by the things I choose to study school and now university, but I'm no vegan (love meat, can't take that away from me!) . I also think things like windfarms should be implemented, I personally don't see what the big fuss is all about; it's clean electricity and to be honest I don't think it's TOO much of an eyesore . But then again that's my opinion, and it certainly would rub most people whose properties will be affected in the wrong way qazwsxokmijn, have spent all this time trying to trace the journal with the relevant article on planting pinus radiata trees on the outskirts of the Sahara desert to prevent the encroachment of sand . We will leave it at: you know what you know and I know what has been published on the subject . Compliments of the season to you and yours . Lurking .	Lurking (218)
1163306	2010-12-22 22:46:00	I would love to put a wind generator on my property the damn council won't let me. I even have the design of the one I would like to use stored in my head	gary67 (56)
1163307	2010-12-23 00:53:00	I would love to put a wind generator on my property the damn council won't let me. I even have the design of the one I would like to use stored in my head Would have been a better idea here in Pegasus Bay instead of the Pier and the stinking fishing that goes on, mostly people who need to go back to where they came from, lol, yeah right. Lurks.	Lurking (218)
1163308	2010-12-24 05:58:00	The country could easily support a few more million, sure the infrastructure would need to be built to support the population but that's exactly how its done everywhere else. Personally I think we just need to fine tune our existing population, Kill off the grievance industry and the sepreatist movement, send all the overstayers back to the islands,trim all denifits to 10% of their current level. Shoot a few hundred crims and give the rest free land on an island somewhere (Aussie) and revoke their citizen ship. The likes of 12v's can go with them to be their *****. The king of the grievance industry wants to cut it off, do you read your own posts?	Twelvevolts (5457)
1163309	2010-12-24 06:10:00	I would love to put a wind generator on my property the damn council won't let me. I even have the design of the one I would like to use stored in my head Got to love the councils! On the one hand they are all for energy conservation and on the other hand they oppose anyones inatives to save power. Yet the daft pricks allow waste in the form of additional streetlighting thats not needed. Antartica is sounding a really nice place to get away from it all.	coldfront (15814)
1163310	2010-12-24 06:37:00	The king of the grievance industry wants to cut it off, do you read your own posts? Somehow I doubt the Waitangi tribunal and all the leeches hanging off it would want me as their king. They would be being marched through town in stocks within hours, and the 100's of millions of tax payer dollars that feeds it would be directed elsewhere. If I were to be king there would be zero race based policies.	Metla (12)
1163311	2010-12-24 08:01:00	Somehow I doubt the Waitangi tribunal and all the leeches hanging off it would want me as their king. They would be being marched through town in stocks within hours, and the 100's of millions of tax payer dollars that feeds it would be directed elsewhere. If I were to be king there would be zero race based policies. Have you thought of the torment this would bring to the likes of 12V and his ilk ?	Cicero (40)
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