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Thread ID: 114816	2010-12-18 18:43:00	WINZ and $15 an Hour	pctek (84)	PC World Chat

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1163073	2010-12-19 08:22:00	The biggest problem (as was mentioned by someone earlier) is casual work is too unreliable & unpredictable. You can survive on a steady 40 hour per week minimum wage job, but it gets a lot harder when you can go from 40 hours down to 10 hours with no warning.	Greven (91)
1163074	2010-12-19 09:38:00	I always remember this line from someone at winz "Cant your employer give you more hours" "erm if they could would I be here talking to you?" was the reply	coldfront (15814)
1163075	2010-12-19 19:33:00	The benefit should only be reserved for those disadvantaged by physical and/or mental debilitation Wait until you or a close relative has experience that situation before condemning them all.	pctek (84)
1163076	2010-12-19 19:42:00	Wait until you or a close relative has experience that situation before condemning them all. Wait....I think we may be on a different page. What I get from that article is three people are too lazy to work after figuring out the benefit will only pay them $20 less a week than if they were working. This implies they are fully capable of work, but won't because they'd rather be on the benefit which pays them very slightly less. Is that what you also got from the article?	qazwsxokmijn (102)
1163077	2010-12-19 21:13:00	Wait....I think we may be on a different page. What I get from that article is three people are too lazy to work after figuring out the benefit will only pay them $20 less a week than if they were working. This implies they are fully capable of work, but won't because they'd rather be on the benefit which pays them very slightly less. Is that what you also got from the article? What I got from the article was an employer unable to guarentee hours or willing to pay a few dollars more complaining about how they could not retain staff. I also got from it that the 3 people involved had done the maths and realised that working for that same employer was not economical when the cost to travel to work was deducted. How much they wer paying out in travel to work costs is not known and how much of the story is not been put there to be undertood more clearly. Any of these stories are never clear cut but many factors clearly get overlooked and the main one here seems to be a disgruntled Employer again.	coldfront (15814)
1163078	2010-12-19 21:17:00	I got that WINZ can't multiply. yes, yes, working for families and all that - perhaps. Straight 40hrs at $15, nope.	pctek (84)
1163079	2010-12-19 21:27:00	I got that WINZ can't multiply. :clap Winz fail miserably in calculating individuals travel to work costs as do many employers.	coldfront (15814)
1163080	2010-12-19 22:58:00	Yes I think it means that the dole for a married person or one with children it too high. The minimum wage is what will kill this country. Every time they put it up, companies close down - Sawmills etc. In the USA the "richest country" in the world the minimum wage is $8.00 an hour. Winz need to get better at getting people into jobs.	Digby (677)
1163081	2010-12-19 23:59:00	Yes I think it means that the dole for a married person or one with children it too high. The minimum wage is what will kill this country. Every time they put it up, companies close down - Sawmills etc. In the USA the "richest country" in the world the minimum wage is $8.00 an hour. Winz need to get better at getting people into jobs. And there will be more jobs when you double or triple the population???????????	Snorkbox (15764)
1163082	2010-12-20 00:01:00	Some say, bludgers are owed a living, just can't see it myself. The pro bludger relies on the do gooders seeing that there is good in us all, in fact there are those that take up oxygen at our expense. And for PC's benifit for ths 100th time, nobody on here begrudge the needy getting a hand up.	Cicero (40)
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