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Thread ID: 114850 2010-12-20 01:26:00 Council held liable for leaky homes 1101 (13337) PC World Chat
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1163452 2010-12-20 01:26:00 www.stuff.co.nz

What will this mean for ratepayers??
Doubling rate bill, tripling rates bills??
ongoing huge legal costs as councils try to stall payments
Will this cause an ratepayer outrage & possible law change removing responsibility

I still dont understand why councils can be deemed liable- even partially liable.

- they didnt design it
- they didnt supply the materials
- they didnt build it
- they werent the ones who decided to buy budget housing
1101 (13337)
1163453 2010-12-20 01:30:00 They signed it off. pctek (84)
1163454 2010-12-20 01:31:00 Because the council approved them as "not faulty", when they were. Chilling_Silence (9)
1163455 2010-12-20 01:33:00 But they inspected it and signed it off as being of an acceptable level of quality (and took money for the 'service').

Doesn't matter here whether the councils (ratepayers) have to pay or the insurers (policy-holders) have to pay. It all comes back on us, one way or another.
johcar (6283)
1163456 2010-12-20 01:37:00 It's a shame, my parents had some work done on their roof within the last 12 months. Just this weekend it began leaking. Terrible stuff ... Chilling_Silence (9)
1163457 2010-12-20 01:57:00 Again, how can they be held majorly responsible for someone elses work, someone elses design, someone else faulty product just because they signed it off. I think councils are being hammered solely as those truely responsible are long gone .
Surely No one would have excpected them to be held to this sort of responsiblity at the time.
How many owners actually believed a council sign off is any guarantee of quality of product & design?? Would that not have been naive ??
1101 (13337)
1163458 2010-12-20 02:10:00 Again, how can they be held majorly responsible for someone elses work, someone elses design, someone else faulty product just because they signed it off. I think councils are being hammered solely as those truely responsible are long gone .
Surely No one would have excpected them to be held to this sort of responsiblity at the time.
How many owners actually believed a council sign off is any guarantee of quality of product & design?? Would that not have been naive ??

The council requires the work to have a permit and be inspected by them. They charge for that service. Like anyone else the must be required to perform to the reqired standards. Unfortunately the council represents the ratepayers who in the end one way or another pay for the council and its mistakes. ie. the buck stops with the council but the ratepayers pay.
CliveM (6007)
1163459 2010-12-20 02:19:00 Lets say you're The Warehouse. You sell a toy bike. That bike breaks. Customer comes back to you and returns it. You replace it. Not The Warehouse's fault that the bike broke, they didn't make it, but they did "sign off on it" as a product suitable for sale, with a warranty... It's not that difficult. Chilling_Silence (9)
1163460 2010-12-20 02:19:00 “The vast bulk of leaky homes are in Auckland, and with estimates of the repair bill across the country ranging from between $11 billion and $20 billion, the liability on ‘super city’ ratepayers could be very significant indeed, perhaps amounting to several billion dollars.”

I cant image ratepayers will be willing to pay....
I say, the old councils now longer exist, start afresh.
Hands up, who here is willing to have huge rate increases to pay for this ??
1101 (13337)
1163461 2010-12-20 02:24:00 You speak as thou you will have a choice... DeSade (984)
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