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Thread ID: 114865	2010-12-20 17:05:00	Anti smacking law working?	Snorkbox (15764)	PC World Chat

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1163667	2010-12-24 05:55:00	I do wonder if our current crime problem can be traced back to the restructuring of the youth justice system. It is now based on a system such as 12v supports, Instead of punishment they are given support and every effort is made to keep them as part of the community rather then giving them consequences. The end result is the very system designed to curb their behavior is facilitating it, allowing them continue on as they damn well please, all they have to do play the game with the soft-brained fools running the system. By the time they become adults they are well entrenched in a life of crime and as a bonus they have no record so its a clean slate. Court on Thursday, No wukin furries. Guaranteed every single shitbag who preys on the community has been through the so called youth justice system as well. Hell yes, Bring back the cane, The community needs to show these scum what is acceptable and what they will not tolerate, Starting from day one and right through school. Its the job of the parents, the extended family, the schools, and the community. Instead we have the filthy government stepping it, giving the criminals the rights and making laws against the parents, the schools and the police themselves. At the moment these people are allowed to get away with far too much, even the small crimes have a huge cost, yet the system allows it to escalate until innocent people are getting killed. On the basis that the government is meant to follow the will of the people then a huge amount of people are responsible for this state of affairs. Its a sin to allow it to continue. That community you live in sounds really rough, funny how the majority of people surveyed think it is a safe country then isn't it. Here I was thinking you said on another ocasion that things were as good as they've ever been, and I think on that occasion you were right. My family has been victims of crime twice this year, once an assault and once a car written off after someone ran a red light. We're lucky know one got seriously hurt (and the car crash was a matter of inches from being very serious) but we don't sit here dwelling about it, in fact my son when asked by Police didn't even want to know what happened at sentencing in either case (I would have myself). He moved on, dwelling on the negative like you guys just makes you grumpy old men who are bitter and twisted, and it appears out of touch with what most people think.	Twelvevolts (5457)
1163668	2010-12-24 07:57:00	I don't disagree with minimum sentencing, However putting adults in jail is the end result for making that lifestyle an option for them from an early age. Parents,family, schools, the community needs to step up, and the government needs to give us the tools to do so rather then punish those who try to do the right thing. The guy that stabbed the tagger to death, He deserves to rot in a cell, However I would have applauded him if he had cut off his hand. I think a quick death is preferable to mutilation. I thought is was rather sad that the chap was only able to get one, the 3 would have shown future taggers the error of their ways.	Cicero (40)
1163669	2010-12-24 19:30:00	Don't see any reference to you lying. You have your perspective of the event, we haven't heard the perspective of the guy who got assaulted that you lable the bully. He might even think he was the bullied one I imagine. Apparently the bully you refer to went to the school principle for help, doesn't sound like much of a bully does he?? Does sound rather more like the victim of an assault. Put whatever spin you want on it to serve your own purpose I don't see anywhere where i said he went to the principal, sticking up for a bully who had assaulted dozens of kids but failing to stick up when said bully gets his come uppance is why the world is falling into the Sh&thole it is	gary67 (56)
1163670	2010-12-24 20:17:00	Put whatever spin you want on it to serve your own purpose I don't see anywhere where i said he went to the principal, sticking up for a bully who had assaulted dozens of kids but failing to stick up when said bully gets his come uppance is why the world is falling into the Sh&thole it is Yes on reviewing the thread, there are two "dealing to bullies" accounts on here, and yours is the one where you assaulted someone with a piece of wood. Clearly I got the two mixed up but given the yarn is essentially the same story. if the bully gang didn't come back and seek retribution then one suspects your account of their and your exploits is someone fanciful. Any bully gang you'd have thought would have rallied their forces and kicked your head in next time they found you out on the street. This is the way the world really works. However, how much jail time should people get for assaulting people with a piece of wood?	Twelvevolts (5457)
1163671	2010-12-24 20:31:00	Its not called assaulting when hitting back at bullies in NZ its called justice.	prefect (6291)
1163672	2010-12-24 22:16:00	Its not called assaulting when hitting back at bullies in NZ its called justice. So when says something to you that you think is intimidating, you're free to punch them at will then are you? With you guys on the case, I'm surprised you have all this crime in your neighbourhood you constantly bang on about.	Twelvevolts (5457)
1163673	2010-12-25 10:45:00	I just came across this story from August 2008 while browsing some old and forgotten parts of PCW; www.nzherald.co.nz Seems quite appropriate to me.	ubergeek85 (131)
1163674	2010-12-25 16:57:00	So when says something to you that you think is intimidating, you're free to punch them at will then are you? With you guys on the case, I'm surprised you have all this crime in your neighbourhood you constantly bang on about. Hum... Wasn't it your son who beat up some guy with whom he had earlier had a fight, a year or two ago, and got arrested for it? I think it might have been you, but it could have been another member on here...	Cato (6936)
1163675	2010-12-25 16:59:00	I just came across this story from August 2008 while browsing some old and forgotten parts of PCW; www.nzherald.co.nz Seems quite appropriate to me. You as a father, with the aid of your partner - I can't say 'wife' these days, PC. I have noticed a number of people call their spouse "partner"... I can't help but find it weird somehow...	Cato (6936)
1163676	2010-12-25 19:15:00	I just find it so annoying when the lets wrap the baddies in cotton wool doesn't work and yet the alternative to dish them some medicine they understand has and does work in most cases, facts which are irrefutable and yet the goody goods still argue for cotton wool. Take that guy in England just killed those women and ate parts of them, he has admitted it, they have him on CCTV, he has Not pleaded insanity so what will happen they will put him in prison at huge expense to the tax payer without parole. Why lock him up he is never going to be let out so why try and rehabilitate him better to just string him up or shoot him, but no that won't do he has feelings too so we must wrap him in cotton wool and pretend to teach him how to be a good citizen. The system that is meant to protect us sucks it needs a serious overhaul	gary67 (56)
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