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1163657	2010-12-23 20:47:00	People who can't argue against the facts make up the real world from their own biased perspective. . Such as your belief there is only a correlation between actions and consequences when it suits your argument.	Metla (12)
1163658	2010-12-23 20:57:00	I do wonder if our current crime problem can be traced back to the restructuring of the youth justice system. It is now based on a system such as 12v supports, Instead of punishment they are given support and every effort is made to keep them as part of the community rather then giving them consequences. The end result is the very system designed to curb their behavior is facilitating it, allowing them continue on as they damn well please, all they have to do play the game with the soft-brained fools running the system. By the time they become adults they are well entrenched in a life of crime and as a bonus they have no record so its a clean slate. Court on Thursday, No wukin furries. Guaranteed every single shitbag who preys on the community has been through the so called youth justice system as well. Hell yes, Bring back the cane, The community needs to show these scum what is acceptable and what they will not tolerate, Starting from day one and right through school. Its the job of the parents, the extended family, the schools, and the community. Instead we have the filthy government stepping it, giving the criminals the rights and making laws against the parents, the schools and the police themselves. At the moment these people are allowed to get away with far too much, even the small crimes have a huge cost, yet the system allows it to escalate until innocent people are getting killed. On the basis that the government is meant to follow the will of the people then a huge amount of people are responsible for this state of affairs. Its a sin to allow it to continue.	Metla (12)
1163659	2010-12-23 21:21:00	Yes Metla Why don't the politician do what the people ask for. We all asked for tougher sentences in a referendum, and they made a few pathetic moves. What is needed are MINIMUM sentences and CUMMULATIVE jail terms. And a 3 month campaign on tv headed by a few tough guys (eg Norm Hewitt) saying that from now onwards these are the minimum sentences for these crimes, they will be cummulative and this is what its like in jail.	Digby (677)
1163660	2010-12-23 21:57:00	And a 3 month campaign on tv headed by a few tough guys (eg Norm Hewitt) saying that from now onwards these are the minimum sentences for these crimes, they will be cummulative and this is what its like in pound me in the arse jail. Fixed that for you :D	Gobe1 (6290)
1163661	2010-12-23 22:32:00	I don't disagree with minimum sentencing, However putting adults in jail is the end result for making that lifestyle an option for them from an early age. Parents,family, schools, the community needs to step up, and the government needs to give us the tools to do so rather then punish those who try to do the right thing. The guy that stabbed the tagger to death, He deserves to rot in a cell, However I would have applauded him if he had cut off his hand.	Metla (12)
1163662	2010-12-23 23:49:00	However let's see if your theory works in the real world, march up to your local gang headquarters with a lump of wood, and tell them to back off the crime. Hopefully it will work and the world will be a better place, but in the real world I think the result will be different. So I tell lies do I? I'm talking about a school bully gang not a bunch of patched gang criminals big difference and it did work for me. I should know I was there	gary67 (56)
1163663	2010-12-24 02:52:00	Physical discipline is the final result of breaking rules and laws. Judges do it all the time, so do the police to a small extent. You steal a car, you go to jail. never mind why you stole the car, the fact is, it was stolen, thus, a law has been broken, and depending on the circumstances, and the judge, you end up in jail. Same goes for kids. If the break rules, they get disciplined, If you can't issue physical action, then what can you do? Talk them into following the rules? I think not.	ubergeek85 (131)
1163664	2010-12-24 04:01:00	You dont go to jail for stealing a car, you dont go to jail if you stole 1000 cars.	prefect (6291)
1163665	2010-12-24 04:36:00	You dont go to jail for stealing a car, you dont go to jail if you stole 1000 cars. I would like that confirmed!	Cicero (40)
1163666	2010-12-24 05:45:00	So I tell lies do I? I'm talking about a school bully gang not a bunch of patched gang criminals big difference and it did work for me. I should know I was there Don't see any reference to you lying. You have your perspective of the event, we haven't heard the perspective of the guy who got assaulted that you lable the bully. He might even think he was the bullied one I imagine. Apparently the bully you refer to went to the school principle for help, doesn't sound like much of a bully does he?? Does sound rather more like the victim of an assault.	Twelvevolts (5457)
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