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1163647	2010-12-22 20:35:00	Symtomatic with the banishment of physical punishment in schools has been the increase in bullying, especially as most bullies are cowards, and quite prepared to to inflict pain and humiliation on others while frightened themselves of being on the receiving end. In the early nineties, my son was a pupil at Howick Intermediate in Auckland, and not being a big lad was subject to merciless physical bullying by one or two youths, in spite of complaints to the school, nothing happened. I made a point of teaching the young lad a few dirty tricks and how to king hit his tormentor, I warned him he had to get it right or he would not certainly take a beating. A few days later, he came home to report that the school bully had picked on him again, and he had dealt with him as I trained him. I was called to the school to see the headmaster about the incident. My son had aquitted himself well and taken the bully out. The man was pompously angry about the incident, I told the headmaster that the victim of the incident was a habitual bully, which the headmaster admitted he knew, and that I had made a point of training the boy to deal with the bully, which would not have been necessary if he and his staff maintained proper control and discipline in the school grounds. The headmasters response was that I should be ashamed of myself for teaching my son to be able to look after himself. The upside, he was never bullied again in his remaining 18 months at that school.	KenESmith (6287)
1163648	2010-12-22 20:52:00	Symtomatic with the banishment of physical punishment in schools has been the increase in bullying, especially as most bullies are cowards, and quite prepared to to inflict pain and humiliation on others while frightened themselves of being on the receiving end. In the early nineties, my son was a pupil at Howick Intermediate in Auckland, and not being a big lad was subject to merciless physical bullying by one or two youths, in spite of complaints to the school, nothing happened. I made a point of teaching the young lad a few dirty tricks and how to king hit his tormentor, I warned him he had to get it right or he would not certainly take a beating. A few days later, he came home to report that the school bully had picked on him again, and he had dealt with him as I trained him. I was called to the school to see the headmaster about the incident. My son had aquitted himself well and taken the bully out. The man was pompously angry about the incident, I told the headmaster that the victim of the incident was a habitual bully, which the headmaster admitted he knew, and that I had made a point of training the boy to deal with the bully, which would not have been necessary if he and his staff maintained proper control and discipline in the school grounds. The headmasters response was that I should be ashamed of myself for teaching my son to be able to look after himself. The upside, he was never bullied again in his remaining 18 months at that school. I note you were called after retalliation, these PC teachers are the problem and what can be done, I Have no idea.	Cicero (40)
1163649	2010-12-22 21:36:00	I can't help it if you don't read any news that doesn't support your negative view on the world. Unfortunately for you the facts don't support your theories, as I say move to a better part of town as your local school sure sounds out of kilter with what really happens in most schools. Better still join your school board and see if you can do something positive, although you whingers never do that. There will always be "the world was better when I grew up" types but the reality is the world is a better place now than it has ever been and New Zealand is a relatively safe country and the majority of people when surveyed in the MOJ survey confirmed that they agree. Looks like you are the one who is out of touch.NO, I don't think I have a negative view. One assumes that you went to some toffee-nosed private school? I say this because your view of the world seems to be rather rose-coloured... something usually associated with wealth. Anyway, in my view, people who throw figures at anything generally have no idea of what really happens Enjoy your rose-coloured Christmas - it may surprise you that this year, not everyone will be able to give or get presents... but your figures already tell you this right?	Myth (110)
1163650	2010-12-22 21:44:00	I can't help it if you don't read any news that doesn't support your negative view on the world . Unfortunately for you the facts don't support your theories, as I say move to a better part of town as your local school sure sounds out of kilter with what really happens in most schools . Better still join your school board and see if you can do something positive, although you whingers never do that . There will always be "the world was better when I grew up" types but the reality is the world is a better place now than it has ever been and New Zealand is a relatively safe country and the majority of people when surveyed in the MOJ survey confirmed that they agree . Looks like you are the one who is out of touch . Thats 3 people already who dont support your post about the cane in school! . . PCT is exactly right, the 90% who behave had a fear of getting the cane!	SolMiester (139)
1163651	2010-12-22 21:49:00	Symtomatic with the banishment of physical punishment in schools has been the increase in bullying, especially as most bullies are cowards, and quite prepared to to inflict pain and humiliation on others while frightened themselves of being on the receiving end. In the early nineties, my son was a pupil at Howick Intermediate in Auckland, and not being a big lad was subject to merciless physical bullying by one or two youths, in spite of complaints to the school, nothing happened. I made a point of teaching the young lad a few dirty tricks and how to king hit his tormentor, I warned him he had to get it right or he would not certainly take a beating. A few days later, he came home to report that the school bully had picked on him again, and he had dealt with him as I trained him. I was called to the school to see the headmaster about the incident. My son had aquitted himself well and taken the bully out. The man was pompously angry about the incident, I told the headmaster that the victim of the incident was a habitual bully, which the headmaster admitted he knew, and that I had made a point of training the boy to deal with the bully, which would not have been necessary if he and his staff maintained proper control and discipline in the school grounds. The headmasters response was that I should be ashamed of myself for teaching my son to be able to look after himself. The upside, he was never bullied again in his remaining 18 months at that school. God, I just dont understand these people, damned if you do, damned if you dont...I certainly hope you put him in his place...	SolMiester (139)
1163652	2010-12-22 21:51:00	Symtomatic with the banishment of physical punishment in schools has been the increase in bullying, especially as most bullies are cowards, and quite prepared to to inflict pain and humiliation on others while frightened themselves of being on the receiving end. In the early nineties, my son was a pupil at Howick Intermediate in Auckland, and not being a big lad was subject to merciless physical bullying by one or two youths, in spite of complaints to the school, nothing happened. I made a point of teaching the young lad a few dirty tricks and how to king hit his tormentor, I warned him he had to get it right or he would not certainly take a beating. A few days later, he came home to report that the school bully had picked on him again, and he had dealt with him as I trained him. I was called to the school to see the headmaster about the incident. My son had aquitted himself well and taken the bully out. The man was pompously angry about the incident, I told the headmaster that the victim of the incident was a habitual bully, which the headmaster admitted he knew, and that I had made a point of training the boy to deal with the bully, which would not have been necessary if he and his staff maintained proper control and discipline in the school grounds. The headmasters response was that I should be ashamed of myself for teaching my son to be able to look after himself. The upside, he was never bullied again in his remaining 18 months at that school. I hope you walked out of there laughing your head of Ken. Good on you. remember blood washes out.	Gobe1 (6290)
1163653	2010-12-22 22:53:00	Being small myself and bullied at school by a gang of bullies I took out the leader one day when I saw him on his own with a piece of wood. I didn't get bullied anymore and I got the cane fro being violent the bullies got nothing, but they did get caned and expelled after putting another kid in hospital, I know for a fact none of them re offended	gary67 (56)
1163654	2010-12-22 23:57:00	Blardy kids are wised up on the anti smacking laws. When I tell my boys to do something they say no dont want to, what are going to do about it smack me? In the old days the answer was yes.	prefect (6291)
1163655	2010-12-23 00:02:00	mate of mine when his daughter got into the slamming door phase took the door off and put it in his shed, when that one was resolved the next stage was removing the fuse from the plug on her TV (in UK)	gary67 (56)
1163656	2010-12-23 20:39:00	NO, I don't think I have a negative view. One assumes that you went to some toffee-nosed private school? I say this because your view of the world seems to be rather rose-coloured... something usually associated with wealth. Anyway, in my view, people who throw figures at anything generally have no idea of what really happens Enjoy your rose-coloured Christmas - it may surprise you that this year, not everyone will be able to give or get presents... but your figures already tell you this right? People who can't argue against the facts make up the real world from their own biased perspective. We had the cane at our school (not toffee nosed and not private) and bullying was common. Cane achieved nothing in preventing bullying as anyone who was around then will know. Funny how we have a story on here about how a school pupil dealt to a so called bully by being taught how to be more violent. If you'd tried that at my school the bullies would hardly have backed off, this is fantasy world stuff and frankly you'd have had your head kicked in if you tried it. One on to a gang doesn't work apart from in Clint Eastwood movies. However let's see if your theory works in the real world, march up to your local gang headquarters with a lump of wood, and tell them to back off the crime. Hopefully it will work and the world will be a better place, but in the real world I think the result will be different.	Twelvevolts (5457)
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