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| Thread ID: 114865 | 2010-12-20 17:05:00 | Anti smacking law working? | Snorkbox (15764) | PC World Chat |
| Post ID | Timestamp | Content | User | ||
| 1163617 | 2010-12-21 07:03:00 | "Working" as in children are able to be capably disciplined without mild violence? In that case, no its not working (for some unscrupulous little twits) Bring back the cane. I would hate to be caned, thats why it worked. Cane never worked at my school - same people kept going back for it. |
Twelvevolts (5457) | ||
| 1163618 | 2010-12-21 07:08:00 | Cane never worked at my school - same people kept going back for it. Are you talking about me?? How did you know? PJ:horrified |
Poppa John (284) | ||
| 1163619 | 2010-12-21 07:11:00 | Are you talking about me?? How did you know? PJ:horrified Everyone knows the cane didn't work at preventing misbehaviour, we all went to school and we all know kids who it had no impact on. |
Twelvevolts (5457) | ||
| 1163620 | 2010-12-21 07:16:00 | Everyone knows the cane didn't work at preventing misbehaviour, we all went to school and we all know kids who it had no impact on. These days most of them are soft bottomed wimps. It might work, it might not. I'm not talking from experience. Our 6th form and and 7th form are the last of the "old breed" when we used to bed roll and do dorm raids. "Bridges" and gate runs (4km in the frost at 5 am) were common punishments. :cool: Now we can't even look at the 4th form dorm. :horrified |
The Error Guy (14052) | ||
| 1163621 | 2010-12-21 07:45:00 | So if I follow Metla (difficult as he can't seem to state what his argument is) then the argument here is Corporal Punishment is effective + People who received corporal punishment by their parents won't beat their kids = Corporal punishment prevents violence The case against such nonsense is obvious. The American Psychological Association claims that corporal punishment is violent and unnecessary, may lower self-esteem, and is liable to instil hostility and rage without reducing the undesired behaviour. The APA also states that corporal punishment is likely to train children to use physical violence.. Logical really. So what's the bet that the offender received corporal punishment or worse as a child? |
Twelvevolts (5457) | ||
| 1163622 | 2010-12-21 08:13:00 | So if I follow Metla (difficult as he can't seem to state what his argument is) then the argument here is My position is that I fail to take any enjoyment in using the tragic death of yet another child at the hands of their parents as a springboard into a moronic discussion with you. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 1163623 | 2010-12-21 08:14:00 | Nope ... definitely NOT working ... get my hand slapped by SWMBO on a regular basis .... :D | SP8's (9836) | ||
| 1163624 | 2010-12-21 08:24:00 | So if I follow Metla (difficult as he can't seem to state what his argument is) then the argument here is Corporal Punishment is effective + People who received corporal punishment by their parents won't beat their kids = Corporal punishment prevents violence The case against such nonsense is obvious. The American Psychological Association claims that corporal punishment is violent and unnecessary, may lower self-esteem, and is liable to instil hostility and rage without reducing the undesired behaviour. The APA also states that corporal punishment is likely to train children to use physical violence.. Logical really. So what's the bet that the offender received corporal punishment or worse as a child?What planet are you from bro? What lowers self esteem is an old man who strips you down to your underwear, then shoves you in front of a mirror and calls you a fat **** - at the age of 12 Or a step mother who objects to you standing up for yourself over something minor she does that annoys you, and punches you so hard you hit the deck. And then because you are **** scared of the old man you know not to touch her. And then when he gets home he laughs it off and agrees with her side. But you got up, dusted yourself off, and walked away (vowing never to forget) There was nothing wrong with getting the cane occassionally - but this crap ^ does far more damage. And people think I grew up in a "sheltered" environment For the record, I don't beat my girl. In fact, the harshest punishment she ever receives is one smack - open hand to open hand. And that is very seldom. Usually its a telling off, with an explanation after of what she did wrong. And again I ask you, what freakin planet are you from?? |
Myth (110) | ||
| 1163625 | 2010-12-21 09:15:00 | And again I ask you, what freakin planet are you from?? 12V comes from a planet where the compassion and empathy is for the perpetraters of crime, and their rights and well being over ride the rights and well being of the communities they prey upon. I think he believes that if we just give them a hug and stop picking on them then it will all be all right. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 1163626 | 2010-12-21 10:14:00 | 12 Volts. My point is that the Govt passed a law that actually did nothing as in the Anti smacking bill. It can and could make criminals out of Parents who DO care. On the other hand you seem to make apologies for those who should receive a form of punishment for doing something that they know to be wrong. For me I'd rather give a child a clip over the ear rather than see the same kid grow up to occupy a prison cell. For the record I grew up in a home where Mum used the copper stick and Dad used his belt and the teachers used cut down razor strops. I never had to go to hospital for the injuries received. Perhaps a better answer is to bring back the stocks and humiliate miscreants at an early age rather than saying it's a medical condition or blame others. As to the dead child in Napier I take it you know all the circumstances? Another red herring or strawman argument from you I believe. |
Snorkbox (15764) | ||
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