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Thread ID: 115212 2011-01-07 08:22:00 Fantastic news somebody (208) PC World Chat
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1168026 2011-01-08 20:34:00 I only have issues with those who are unfairly on the benifit.

Some call them oxygen wasters.
Cicero (40)
1168027 2011-01-08 20:59:00 Perhaps word hasn't yet reached the Ngauranga Gorge that we all end up paying for smokers' diseases.
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A complete red herring, the tax on cigarettes already pays for the additional hospital time that the smokers rack up.

So if you don't like the current system, vote for a user pays health system where everyone pays for their own health care, and scrap ACC and let everyone go to Court if they want compensation.

Prohibition doesn't work and never has for alcohol or drugs, and higher taxes may well impact on some giving up, but ultimately a black market will appear to cater for the demand if the taxes become too high.

Not that I like smoking because I'm fairly intolerant of it generally, but if the smokers go outside and stay out of my way, then they can kill themselves if they want to.
Twelvevolts (5457)
1168028 2011-01-08 21:59:00 Prohibition doesn't work and never has for alcohol or drugs.


So, if it doesn't work would you then just legalise everything?

We have laws against P, it cost a crap load to police, and there is no shortage of P available to those that want it and its a battle that never will be won, what would you do?
Metla (12)
1168029 2011-01-08 23:55:00 :waughh: Here we have another deluded addict spouting forth nonsense.
+1

But then smokers always try to justify their filthy habit. They don't realise just how badly they smell - nay, STINK - apart from all the other problems.

How can you justify a habit like that? :yuck: You can't.

What do you mean you can't give up? If you think that then you are weak.
Roscoe (6288)
1168030 2011-01-09 00:26:00 So, if it doesn't work would you then just legalise everything?

We have laws against P, it cost a crap load to police, and there is no shortage of P available to those that want it and its a battle that never will be won, what would you do?

I'd go with the late Isaac Asimov's view, leglalise all drugs and put heavy taxes on them (like we do with tobacco now).
Twelvevolts (5457)
1168031 2011-01-09 00:33:00 They pay their way and subside health care for non-smokers by hundreds of millions of dollars, why is it anyone elses business?

The only issue I have is those on the benefit buying cigarettes.

I recall it was something to the tune of 1.6 billion...
Cato (6936)
1168032 2011-01-09 01:57:00 I'd go with the late Isaac Asimov's view, leglalise all drugs and put heavy taxes on them (like we do with tobacco now).

That is without doubt the answer, well done for once.!
Cicero (40)
1168033 2011-01-09 02:32:00 But then smokers always try to justify their filthy habit . They don't realise just how badly they smell - nay, STINK - apart from all the other problems .



The sooner NZ makes it illegal to smoke outside, the better - especially at cafes, parks and playgrounds . Often we like to sit at the outdoor tables of a cafe when it is too hot or noisy indoors, and while we are enjoying our meal some idiot smoker lights up and pollutes :yuck: our experience .
Strommer (42)
1168034 2011-01-09 07:49:00 I'd go with the late Isaac Asimov's view, leglalise all drugs and put heavy taxes on them (like we do with tobacco now).

Yeah, that will stop scum stealing to support their addictions.

Oh wait.

That system would never work as it relies on society being responsible, and if you want to find the most irresponsible segment of society they are the hard drug users.

All it would succeed in doing is massive expansion of the problem and we law abiding hard working tax payers would be hit with a trillion dollar cost to treat the scum and the resulting degradation within society.

Drugs cook peoples brains, it makes the mad even madder, the crook even more crooked, and those that steal to support themselves will still do so, and they will go start to the tax free source.....and get credit.

Drug buyers love ticking their **** up..
Metla (12)
1168035 2011-01-09 07:52:00 I recall it was something to the tune of 1.6 billion...

The figures I saw were a tax take of 1 billion, with smoking related illness costing 400 to 600 million.
Metla (12)
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