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Thread ID: 115127	2011-01-03 07:19:00	My Stepson Just Killed A Guy	SurferJoe46 (51)	PC World Chat

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1166692	2011-01-03 21:12:00	That knife could just have easily gone beneath the vest and into the groin / femural artery / neck and carotids, eye... an instant could have taken a life or ruined a career if that knife got sliced in a different direction. As far as I'm concerned, your stepson has done a good job. Why the hell should we tolerate people who use knives on cops? Good riddance to a nasty piece of work.	Paul.Cov (425)
1166693	2011-01-03 21:19:00	I agree - and some people are beyond rehabilitation. Having a knife and pulling it is an overt hostile act and one that escorted him to his death. Heart attitudes and seats of motivation aside, he wasn't a nice guy or one you'd want your daughter to marry I feel. Just carrying a knife for a purpose is always in the mind of someone like this and to actually use it makes it all the more premeditated.	SurferJoe46 (51)
1166694	2011-01-03 21:30:00	Just carrying a knife for a purpose is always in the mind of someone like this and to actually use it makes it all the more premeditated. Your stepson should not feel too badly - I think it would be well nigh impossible for him not to experience some remorse no matter how low the low life was - but I would think he'll need the support of those close to him. He'll be lucky to have yourself and Mrs SJ to call on.	WalOne (4202)
1166695	2011-01-03 21:47:00	Thanks, WalOne. That's kind.	SurferJoe46 (51)
1166696	2011-01-03 22:07:00	Most police work in pairs and are able to give each other immediate backup. They need to be able rely on and trust their partner. In this instant your stepson's reactions would have been instinctive because of his training. After the event his thoughts would be 'could I have handled it better'. Lets hope that things work out well for your stepson.	Bobh (5192)
1166697	2011-01-04 03:26:00	Stepson (no name) - he's a deputy sheriff - got into a scuffle trying to assist his partner when the perp pulled a knife and stabbed the partner . My stepson shot the perp dead . Yawn! Happens in America all the time . :groan: Perhaps the only thing unusual is that it was Joe's stepson . Can't be considered newsworthy - not in America .	Roscoe (6288)
1166698	2011-01-04 03:44:00	Yawn! Happens in America all the time.:groan: Perhaps the only thing unusual is that it was Joe's stepson. Can't be considered newsworthy - not in America. There's no argument with most of that excepting it wasn't meant to be news. It did say here's a member of our community experiencing some stress in his life, and the what and where and how. Joe wasn't being precious or playing for sympathy (I can't imagine that); by and large as a community we are caring, and it doesn't hurt us in the least to show that. As we did when BillyT went AWOL, and we sent Speedy to the wedding.	WalOne (4202)
1166699	2011-01-04 04:58:00	Most police work in pairs and are able to give each other immediate backup . They need to be able rely on and trust their partner . In this instant your stepson's reactions would have been instinctive because of his training . After the event his thoughts would be 'could I have handled it better' . Lets hope that things work out well for your stepson . The partners-thing is unique for him as he patrols as a single almost all the time on a very late to dawn patrol is some rugged sparsely populated terrain . This was New Years night and a call went out and he responded . Don't know for sure how the call went down, but in the US - more cops are killed or seriously injured in a domestic disturbance than in an armed bank robbery . I've yet to hear what the original call was or anything else for that matter . There's always tomorrow and my wife is going to call him at his home .	SurferJoe46 (51)
1166700	2011-01-04 05:00:00	I suppose not all Americans are blasé about people being shot and it must be more traumatic when it is one of your own that pulls the trigger. But that does not change the fact that shootings are a commonplace occurrence in America and in most cases it does not warrant a mention. That does not mean that I am not sympathetic. It must be difficult for Joe and his stepson. But that does not change the fact that that sort of thing is a fact of life in America. If you choose to live there then expect that sort of thing to happen. It is hard to comment when you do not know all the facts, but despite comments to the contrary on this thread, nobody deserves to die for their actions. Disable the offender, yes, but it is completely unnecessary to kill him.	Roscoe (6288)
1166701	2011-01-04 05:24:00	<snip> nobody deserves to die for their actions . Disable the offender, yes, but it is completely unnecessary to kill him . Pardon me? How's that supposed to work? As a rule, cops aren't supposed to get so close to a person for them to be able to use a knife - and being at a decent distance makes it easier to observe the whole body and moves of a suspect . The human arm is shorter than the reach of a bullet - right? This however - was an Up-Tight-Saturday-Night confrontation . The fact that one cop got cut by the knife - although not in a deadly way - wasn't supposed to happen . Once a person enters the cop's 'zone' they are subject to whatever means the cop has to use so he can go home at night to his family and not lie bleeding out on a sidewalk . So - by supposition on your behalf since American is gun-crazy - the perp stuck the barrel of a gun into the other cop's vest and just cut him with it? Novel use of a firearm - which the perp didn't have AFAIK . But he DID have a knife . I just bet that almost every Upsidedown Land'r has a knife or two in their silverware drawers - in their home too! :eek: Youse guys are all armed to the teeth and so is your whole family! Don't give me the sophistry and segue it into a bash of US law enforcement and the general population seen as John Wayne, Bonnie & Clyde and The Barrow gang . .	SurferJoe46 (51)
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