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Thread ID: 115267 2011-01-10 09:45:00 Queensland Floods KenESmith (6287) PC World Chat
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1168622 2011-01-11 11:26:00 First point:
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Are these floods worse than before?
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Are they the result of climate change?
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NO STONG LA NINA EFFECT, same as in 1974

Can damage like this be claimed from oil-companies?

NO
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Second point:
Is there something that can be done to prevent this in the future?

DAMS LIKE WIVENHOE CAN BE BUILT IN SOME AREAS
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I am from the Netherlands, a country with a lot of knowledge about water-management .

THE AREA AFFECTED IS GREATER THAN WESTERN EUROPE
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About 15 years ago there was flooding in the region Limburg and Gelderland, with the rivers the Maas and the Rijn .
We made the dikes bigger and stronger .
But also: We prepared peaces of farmland to be flooded whenever needed .
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Question:
Is it possible to dig out peaces of land and use the sand to build dams around it,
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and then use these areas to store the water for more controlled flooding? .
KenESmith (6287)
1168623 2011-01-11 19:05:00 Lets hope they bypass the greens and sort out requirements to fix these sorts of problems. Cicero (40)
1168624 2011-01-11 22:52:00 Queensland Flood Update 0830 AEST Wednesday 12 Jan 2011.

www.qld.gov.au

Fatalities now stand at 10 with over 90 people missing, and the number of fatalities are certain to significantly increase, the Emergency Services are attempting today to start combing the wrecked homes and the areas where the flood waters have receded.

Areas of the Brisbane CBD are now Flooded, Coronation Drive has gone under, as has the parts of the suburbs of Westend, Yeronga, and Toowong. Areas of Rocklea and Acacia Ridge are starting to flood.
54 suburbs are at risk in Brisbane and an estimated 19700 homes will be flooded, the Brisbane river will peak today at 4.5mtrs, with the worst expected tomorrow Thursday with a spring Tide at 5.4 metres. (higher than the 1974 floods)

In Ipswich the Floods will peak today in the early afternoon, at 20.4 metres above the normal river height ( that is one hell of a height of water), some 3000 homes are expected to go under.

The flooding round Caboolture in the north has receded slightly and the town is no longer totally cut off.

These floods are a national disaster of a horendous scale, with some 74% of the State of Queensland affected.

www.police.qld.gov.au

/morecommthreatsJan03.htm
www.abc.net.au

news.ninemsn.com.au

Additionally there is now serious flooding developing in Northern New South Wales, in the area surrounding Grafton on the Clarence River.

It can be expected that they Flood problem will be with us for many days to come, and that will be followed by a heart breaking clean-up for the victims, and for many it will be a loss of a lifetime from which they will take a long time to recover, if ever.

The economic consequences will be with Queensland and Northern New South Wales for a long time, in spite of the natural wealth of this nation.
KenESmith (6287)
1168625 2011-01-12 00:23:00 Could we send Keith Locke over there ? Digby (677)
1168626 2011-01-12 00:27:00 I feel very sorry for those Aussies

How do those people get up on to their roof's ?

It really brings home how farseeing and intelligent and practical our forefathers were that started up the Earth Quake and War Damage Commision.

Christchurch will be re-built fairly soon.
Haiti - will never be ?

It also shows that we in the west must keep our standards of civilisation and modern society up.
Digby (677)
1168627 2011-01-12 00:36:00 How do those people get up on to their roof's ?

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Just tread water till you reach roof height and bobs your uncle.
Cicero (40)
1168628 2011-01-12 01:31:00 How do those people get up on to their roof's ?



Rubber ring, snorkel and flippers :confused:
gary67 (56)
1168629 2011-01-12 04:00:00 Many parts of Brisbane continue to go underwater this afternoon even though sunnier conditions have moved in. Despite the forecast for much drier weather in the city over the next 48 hours, the flood waters are only going to get worse.

WeatherWatch.co.nz head weather analyst Philip Duncan says the flooding in Brisbane is quite different to the flooding in Toowoomba yesterday.

"The flooding in Toowoomba was a result of a localised down burst in the area. A huge volume of rain fell over a small area in a short time - which is why we saw streams turning into raging rivers in a matter of minutes".

Mr Duncan says Brisbane is facing a different flood altogether.

"What Brisbane is being hit by is heavy rain that fell upstream over the past five days, and in particular the past 48 hours. The Wivenhoe Dam blocks the Brisbane River about 80km west of Brisbane and it is massive rainfall in this catchment that is causing the delayed flooding in Brisbane."
pctek (84)
1168630 2011-01-12 06:33:00 The Wivenhoe dam is at over 190% capacity, and spilling water has been an absolutely essential operation in spite of such releases having serious flooding consequences for down stream. The Water that is control released each day exceeds the volume of Sydney Harbour.

The latest forecast is that the Brisbane floods will peak about 4am tomorrow morning at round 5.4 to 5.5 metre, but the water levels will remain high for 12 -18 hours, before slowly abating.

On the TV update at 1600 local time, the spokesman said it was estimated that it would take about 2 years to repair or rebuild the flood damaged property in Brisbane.

To those who have friends or relatives in SE Queensland, I trust the information that I have posted over the past couple of days has been of some help.
KenESmith (6287)
1168631 2011-01-12 06:56:00 I got a message from some friends in Brisbane, It said they were rattled but safe, I told them to harden up. Until water is going flowing around your knees its a non-issue.

That said, It will be interesting to see if the river-walls I helped build along the Brisbane river have been affected, be a shame to see them collapse again.

Plenty of blood,sweat and backache went into building them, of course the rest of the crew being skippy poofs didn't help.
Metla (12)
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