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Thread ID: 115322	2011-01-13 02:01:00	HP	pctek (84)	PC World Chat

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1169501	2011-01-14 06:34:00	What epson ink jet will do 1000 pages (2 reams) per cartridge ? Personally If you anyone were doing that much black, a Laser would be a LOT cheaper to run. Apparently a T40W. 103 Epson High Capacity Black Ink Cartridge SKU: EP103192 Epson 103 Extra High Capacity Black Inkjet Cartridge for the: # Stylus Office T40W Online Price: $30.43 ($34.99 Incl. GST) 1035 pages based on ISO/IEC Std Test Patterns 24711 & 24712. I'm not fussed on small discrepancies in how many, it says 1035, if it does 900 I'll accept that. 500 and I might be a bit annoyed. The main issue with the HP, it said 1200 black and 700 colour. Black actually was pretty accurate. It did a page count, not measured the ink level and at around about 700 (less really) it decided all 3 colours were empty. Thats 700 total, not 700 colour. More like 600 black and maybe 100 mixed. Bollocks. I print a lot of black but not colour. Like right now I printed 2 invoices, 2 pages of info for husband and 1 chesters bill and 1 micos bill. This morning I printed 3 other pages. I pretty much print everything for him, I emailed one of his customers today with her invoice but he still wanted a hard copy. If someone emails him I have to print it, or some info, I have printed the Mico price list - not all of it - his commonly ordered stuff - it's easier cause their website sucks for one thing - not like our suppliers sites with proper info, and also mostly I'm not around to look it up for him online always anyway. And he needs to be able to quote on a whole bunch of things. He could ring, but sometimes it's a bunch of stuff, and then compare with the other suppliers etc. Easy to have the paperwork in front of him and read it. Not that much today but thats why I want loads of pages per ink. And yes lasers - the same thing applies, cheapy home lasers do the same thing with toners - some do a lot, some don't. And then theres the cost of toners and then drums and all that too. Anyway, after 6 weeks and a lot of stuffing around for a dodgy problem, I told them I wanted a refund. They said I'm not entitled to one so it's going to Disputes. And I bought the Epson.	pctek (84)
1169502	2011-01-14 06:37:00	Dunno - Only Pctek can answer that -- if you read back from post 12, yourself has been the only one to mention a Laser - Which is I totally agree, way cheaper to run that injets. We dont have any injets here at all now, everything is Laser,both Black and Colour printers (1 of each) My black laser does over a box (6-7 reams) per toner. The colour laser has the spec's of 5000 (black) and 3000 (Colour) per cartridge. Edited: HP can be a pain in the Butt. My Lexmark black laser gets a hiding, and its cheaper to run than ink jets any day. Approx $5.95 / Ream	wainuitech (129)
1169503	2011-01-14 07:15:00	As others have said, their business level support is top notch, even if you're not a business. I bought a high end monitor (which comes with advanced replacement) and have had it exchanged several times due to manufacturing imperfections (dead pixels). Each time, made a call (unfortunately had to go through a few phone menus), but they sent a replacement with courier sticker so i could send the imperfect one back up at their expense. Uh, thats a bad experience, not a good one. Their quality control and compnent quality must suck balls. If that were me I would have demanded a full refund when the first replacement screen was defective, I would then have kicked myself in the face for being stupid enough to buy HP gear, I would swear never again, I would hold that grudge forever, and I would bad mouth them on the internet at every opportunity.	Metla (12)
1169504	2011-01-14 08:00:00	The colour laser has the spec's of 5000 (black) and 3000 (Colour) per cartridge. How much is the toner or what model printer is it?	pctek (84)
1169505	2011-01-14 08:33:00	Slightly O/T I used to sell photocopiers. They used to put on their brochures how many pages drums and toner did etc. (Based on a 5% test sheet) Have you ever seen a 5% test sheet ? Its about 10 words on a page ! But seriously the only way to compare printers etc is for a company such as PC World to buy one of each and put in a brand new normal ink cartidge/toner cartrdige (not the toy one they give you) and then put them side by side and print the same document until they run out and take a note of how many pages each one did. No one has taken up my patented test idea. But it is the only fair test (imho)	Digby (677)
1169506	2011-01-14 08:38:00	And also off topic I agree - the best set up is to have a black laser for normal printing (very economical) and a colour inkjet for photos etc. By the way I have a Brother Laser and when I take the toner carts into Cartridge World the owner says he can get much mor toner into them than Brother do. And I am sure that his last much longer than original Brother (new) ones do. (So Peter, you owe me a beer for that plug)	Digby (677)
1169507	2011-01-14 09:16:00	How much is the toner or what model printer is it? Both my lasers are lexmark . The colour is a X500N ( . lexmark . co . nz/lexmark/product/home/305/0,6970,241429423_653293760_1069294897_en,00 . html?t" target="_blank">www . lexmark . co . nz abId=1) -- it was dirt cheap from Ingram at the time, they were VERY cheap as they were trying to get rid of them, old stock . Cartridges vary as they have two sizes, but not exactly the cheapest compared to other colour lasers these days . Had it a couple of years now, and still on the 3 of the original cartridges, since I dont do a lot of colour printing . Example of usage: Heres the page count ( . imagef1 . net . nz/files/Page_Count . jpg" target="_blank">www . imagef1 . net . nz) along with Toner usage ( . imagef1 . net . nz/files/Counter_Colours . jpg" target="_blank">www . imagef1 . net . nz) - only just replaced the Cyan about 3 months ago . They sit Side by side ( . imagef1 . net . nz/files/P1010198_" target="_blank">www . imagef1 . net . nz(Large) . JPG) Behind me on a table teh father inlaw made -- Knew it would come in handy one day :)	wainuitech (129)
1169508	2011-01-14 18:22:00	Both my lasers are lexmark. The colour is a X500N -- it was dirt cheap Lexmark High Capacity Cyan Toner $298.94 Lexmark High Capacity Black Toner $344.94 Lexmark Fuser Unit $563.44 That's why I don't have a Laser. That Lexmark - black - comes to .06c per page. My HP - black - (not the lying colour) worked out to .04c per page. The Epson will be .03c. Yes the number of pages probably isn't totally accurate, although based on the page count, the black on my HP was not far off what they said. Dunno about the Epson yet.	pctek (84)
1169509	2011-01-14 20:09:00	The Colour laser was dirt cheap, and as mentioned, and shown in Pic's I dont use much colour. Its a couple of years old and only replaced 1 cartridge & the others are #/4 still. So its not to bad really. There are cheaper ones these days, but why worry. The fuser units still show 100% life, so I guess when they eventually run out I'll just buy a new Laser. Lasers dont have the inks dry up from no use either, unlike many ink jets.	wainuitech (129)
1169510	2011-01-14 21:18:00	There doesn't seem to be a standard between manufacturers with what represents a page count. Our xerox's at work are measured on 15% of coverage where some others are 5%. A mate use to buy the cheap brother laser BW printers from dse or warehouse stationary for just over $100. He got a years worth of invoicing and statements for his worshop. plus any other printing required. When toner ran out, he just got another one	plod (107)
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