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Thread ID: 115457 2011-01-19 04:22:00 Internet on the go and GPS device. Nomad (952) PC World Chat
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1170963 2011-01-19 04:22:00 I am just wondering if you are away from home within NZ or abroad, how do you access the net?

Also, do any of you know if the Nokia GPS subsciption fee is for all maps or is that for each of the maps? I happen to have a Nokia handset that does not come with free maps .

Are the iPhones free maps and what about the Garmin cellphone, I guess as Garmin goes each map is payable right :confused: Does the Garmin cellphone have a true GPS or is it just a-GPS?



:thanks:
Nomad (952)
1170964 2011-01-19 04:27:00 I am just wondering if you are away from home within NZ or abroad, how do you access the net?

Also, do any of you know if the Nokia GPS subsciption fee is for all maps or is that for each of the maps? I happen to have a Nokia handset that does not come with free maps .

Are the iPhones free maps and what about the Garmin cellphone, I guess as Garmin goes each map is payable right :confused: Does the Garmin cellphone have a true GPS or is it just a-GPS?



:thanks:

In my case, the hotel provides Wi Fi .
Cicero (40)
1170965 2011-01-19 04:35:00 Thanks .

For the others fyi . The Garmin Nuvifone seems to be a dedicated GPS cellphone but the maps are $100US, at least for one I checked out . :lol: A shame for the tourist use . Seems like real GPS devices are to be used in original country .
Nomad (952)
1170966 2011-01-19 05:39:00 I am just wondering if you are away from home within NZ or abroad, how do you access the net?Usually via my phone (Nexus One) .


Are the iPhones free maps . . . This depends which application you're using . Google Maps is one of the free options, but requires a network connection .


. . . Does the Garmin cellphone have a true GPS or is it just a-GPS?I'm not sure why this misconception persists, but for some reason people have gotten the idea that AGPS is somehow inferior to 'real' GPS . In most cases, this simply isn't true - AGPS generally refers to a full, standalone GPS unit with a few optional extra bells and whistles that can help improve speed and / or accuracy .

The only situation where AGPS is inferior is where the phone in question is an older model of 'dumbphone' that lacks the necessary system resources to support a full GPS implementation . In this scenario, the GPS unit is effectively split in two, with the phone containing not much more than a GPS radio, and most of the processing is done on a remote server .

All phones sold these days have the necessary system resources to implement a full GPS system locally, and most do . The 'assisted' bit refers to the optional network provision of almanac data, precise time, approximate location fixes, assistance with coordinating fragmented signals, information on local conditions that may affect the GPS signal, etc . None of this assistance is required (although in some cases it can reduce the time required for an initial fix, or improve the accuracy), and the device will quite happily get a GPS fix without the need for any of it .
Erayd (23)
1170967 2011-01-19 05:59:00 Yeah .. on my phone a Nokia E75 it takes a couple of mins to get a fix on my location from cold.

Does the iPhone have maps that you can download and it does not continously use data (like Google Maps does)? Is there a naviggation guidance subscription? Going travel in NZ or abroad I don't wanna get a data plan or roaming data plan .....
Nomad (952)
1170968 2011-01-19 08:36:00 If you get something like the Nexus One, then you can use Google Maps which has recently officially begun to support offline cachine of maps etc.

The standard iPhone version doesn't and requires a constant data connection, though for both Android and iPhone you can get 3rd party apps from their respective Marketplaces, paid of course ... Hence once of the many reasons why I'm going to recommend: Android! ;)
Chilling_Silence (9)
1170969 2011-01-19 09:18:00 Not quite what he's after though Chill, Google Maps / Nav still needs a data connection for searching destinations, figuring out routes etc. Judging by what Nomad says, he won't have *any* mobile data connection at all, so one of the third party apps would be a more appropriate choice here.

Nomad - both platforms do have third party apps that don't require adata connection at all, but I'm not sure what the quality is like, as I've never tried them - Google's navigation apps have always filled my needs perfectly.

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Erayd (23)
1170970 2011-01-19 09:53:00 So not even Android allow one to download the maps and buy any navigation licenses and to use it without *any* mobile data plan?

I guess the 3rd party ones would be more pricey and if and how they charge different map regions .

May just stick to the Nokia :D I'll just buy a $5 . 99 30 day navigation subscription and the ~$12 for life of the particular cellphone for "City Explorer" .
Nomad (952)
1170971 2011-01-19 10:33:00 Nomad - both platforms do have third party apps that don't require adata connection at all, but I'm not sure what the quality is like, as I've never tried them - Google's navigation apps have always filled my needs perfectly.

:pf1mobmini:

Correct me if I am wrong but after a bit of research, it does appear the Androids might not have offline maps from factory.

There is a NZ GPS group which makes them available for free, I have them on my Garmin 60CSx which is pretty good but not that professionally colourful.

My concern is that quality free third party apps are prob v limited (if one wants for them for a lot of countries). OTOH one could buy them off Garmin or TomTom doubt it would be cheap thou. Maybe Nokia's offline maps not too bad now, they have many maps available too. The $5.99 30 day subscription. I love a iPhone or Android, v trendy phones as they are but lacks in oveseas GPS travel.
Nomad (952)
1170972 2011-01-19 10:33:00 So not even Android allow one to download the maps and buy any navigation licenses and to use it without *any* mobile data plan?I think perhaps I was a bit unclear with my previous post. Yes, you can do this just fine with an Android phone, and there are apps available that will work completely offline. What I was saying is that Google Maps / Nav is not one of those apps.

Android itself has nothing to do with whether you can navigate without a data connection; it's just a platform on which navigation apps can run. The need (or not) for a data connection depends entirely on the app in question.

:pf1mobmini:
Erayd (23)
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