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Thread ID: 115618	2011-01-26 23:24:00	IT job search with the more experienced.	Nomad (952)	PC World Chat

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1172790	2011-01-26 23:24:00	I am going to provide a different perspective the job search posts here .. Having worked for a no. of years and getting a a decent salary, I thought I take a career change into IT. I find the process of writing a CV and covering letter no different but the issue for me is that all the jobs are pretty much Helpdesk, I am in Wellington. The selection of jobs are so narrow compared to say a office job where you can branch around and relatively doable to branch back into the field one wants this is not so with IT. There are also much lesser recruitment agencies that deal with IT roles. It's not like one could just go temping and still jump back into a IT role using that gathered experience. Not sure if I made the wrong choice :D Thou Software Development like SQL, programming are much easier cos you can work with array of different jobs in offices or even be an administrator with a project or data warehouse, finance, data analysis, statistics etc etc.. or with a project team. Mine is more in the IT hardware side. Regards.	Nomad (952)
1172791	2011-01-27 00:20:00	I'm really not sure what your point is here. Are you asking if you made the wrong choice or are you trying to give advice or are you looking for another job? Or what? I, for one, find the post rather confusing.	Snorkbox (15764)
1172792	2011-01-27 00:26:00	Not sure what you are saying here, however IMO, hardware support is pretty much a neesh field as are many IT fields nowadays....Helpdesk is really just a sort office for the back office boys...	SolMiester (139)
1172793	2011-01-27 00:48:00	Just saying that IT roles are harder to get into. It's not like medicine that you do very relevent study and be a Doctor (and you're in demand) and it's not v general that you can just do office temping and hope to get some skills to land you a IT job. I find that the software guys are a bit easier more jobs to get into etc... you could just start off as an administrator for a finance team, pick up some knowledge and you might end up improving reporting processes for eg. Helpdesk level 1 I think is more frontline customer service (first point of contact), back office might be level 3 is it? I was told level 2 is a mixture of the both. Not sure if IT jobs sound so great now ... maybe going back to my previous type of role is one of the options I may consider ...	Nomad (952)
1172794	2011-01-27 01:03:00	The selection of jobs are so narrow There are also much lesser recruitment agencies that deal with IT roles . Really??? . geekzone . co . nz/Jobs" target="_blank">jobs . geekzone . co . nz . seek . co . nz/JobSearch?DateRange=31&industry=6281&SearchFrom=quick" target="_blank">www . seek . co . nz And there are loads and loads of Agencies that do IT .	pctek (84)
1172795	2011-01-27 01:19:00	Really??? jobs.geekzone.co.nz www.seek.co.nz And there are loads and loads of Agencies that do IT. I am in Wellington, if I filter it down to Helpdesk and IT Support I get 2 pages of all jobs, 95% are Helpdesk, very few agencies compared to the more general jobs. Like for us there is just Intergen, Candle, Absolute IT, Hays ... I also noticed that some adverts specifically ask agencies not to refer clients, something that didn't occur to me when I was outside the IT field. www.seek.co.nz Other than maybe "Helpdesk and IT Support" is probably out of my skillset. It's not like I can use my office administration skills to apply for a IT role : The more general jobs might be able to access, receptionist, administrator, co-ordinator, PA, assistant, intern or entry analyst .. .. and then after a while you may get a more indepth job.	Nomad (952)
1172796	2011-01-27 01:40:00	One thing I do know about job applications Nomad. If you don't know where you are going then it's going to be very difficult to get there!!!	Snorkbox (15764)
1172797	2011-01-27 02:36:00	One thing I do know about job applications Nomad . If you don't know where you are going then it's going to be very difficult to get there!!! For IT roles at the beginning there are v few avenues generally speaking . Helpdesk or Application Support but Helpdesk takes up like 95% of the jobs . If one wants to be get a hardware job, entry level hardware jobs are actually very few, likewise Application Support . For other roles, if a person is a accountant or just got a arts degree, they cannot get the foot in the door, they could do call centre work, get a bit of office experience and work experience, then maybe do some non telephone work like a administrator and they could use those skills to get them into a actual financial or other role they have in mind .	Nomad (952)
1172798	2011-01-27 03:23:00	if I filter it down to Helpdesk and IT Support I get 2 pages of all jobs, 95% are Helpdesk, Funny that.	pctek (84)
1172799	2011-01-27 06:06:00	When you say "IT hardware side", what do you mean by that? It could vary anywhere from assembling/repairing PCs like a number of PressF1 members do, through to designing enterprise hardware platforms. If you can give us a better indication of what you want to do, and what sort of experience you have, someone here might be able to help you out. There are definitely jobs out there in the IT industry. Just today I had an email from a friend asking if I knew any good people (for non-helpdesk roles) as their company has a lot of work in the pipeline and need to urgently hire more staff. The company I work for is currently looking for people (at the senior end of the spectrum though). Both of these companies are in Wellington. Telecom are looking at in-sourcing and on-shoring: www.stuff.co.nz There will be "stuff" happening in the public sector space as part of the all-of-govt IT initiatives: www.nzherald.co.nz Don't take this offensively, but there are a lot of "IT" people who simply aren't very good, or have entered the industry for all the wrong reasons. In a lot of the fields you've described - like medicine for example - the qualification and training which goes with it does a good job of ensuring only the best people get through. Unfortunately there are a lot of people with IT degrees who have no interest in the field other than having the impression that it pays well, who have either scraped through their qualifications and barely passed, or don't have the life, business, or people skills to make people want to hire them. There are people whose brains simply aren't wired with a technical mindset, who would do a great job in other industries - and yet they insist on trying to get a job in IT. I have no idea if you would fit into any of the categories I described above so don't take those comments personally - they are intended as broad, general statements.	somebody (208)
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