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Thread ID: 115753 2011-02-02 03:40:00 NZ Election date set as Sat 26 Nov 2011 Bobh (5192) PC World Chat
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1174595 2011-02-03 01:23:00 Snorkbox, that's an interesting take on it, very amusing :D

prefect, you're right, and I think that might just work in Keys' favor. 		Chilling_Silence (9)
1174596 2011-02-03 07:01:00 Barry Soper's take on the election.

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I won't bother telling you what I think of Barry Soper.:xmouth: 		mikebartnz (21)
1174597 2011-02-03 07:21:00 I won't bother telling you what I think of Barry Soper.:xmouth:

At one stage Classic Hits were parodying him as Barely Sober :lol: 		pcuser42 (130)
1174598 2011-02-03 08:26:00 At one stage Classic Hits were parodying him as Barely Sober :lol:
That probably explains a lot. What gets me with him is a reporter is meant to be unbiased and tell the news as it is but he likes to try and invent it. 		mikebartnz (21)
1174599 2011-02-03 09:56:00 That and silly little things like making fruit & veggies exempt from GST may sound like a noble idea, but looking at the cold hard facts & figures means that with the nation in its current state, it's simply not viable and would only drive the country further into more debt and prolong the general hardships most New Zealanders face.

Yes those who propose no GST on food never say how much that would cost and where would the government make u the lost income ?

Even if good fresh food was half the price it is now some people would still buy processed food and junk food.

Fresh fruit and vegies are just no exciting.
And I prefer a cold beer at night to a glass of water. 		Digby (677)
1174600 2011-02-03 10:06:00 Just as an aside.
This constant "the government is borrowing 200, 250, 300 million a week" phrase

This is just a case of journalists not doing their homework.

The government debt at the moment is about 15 billion.
John and Bill say that it will start reducing in 2015.

If you do the maths 250 million x 52 weeks = 13 billion.

So you will see that is wrong. We have been "borrowing that amount for at least the last 6 months.

I think the "Key" to it is that governments borrow money on the bond market, millions at a time, and they repay them in say 3 o 4 or 5 years time.

So each week they will be raising a bond, but at the same time they will be repaying another one.

So the net new weekly borrowing will be much less than 250 million. 		Digby (677)
1174601 2011-02-03 16:49:00 Labour will overwhelmingly lose this one. And they'll try to pull all the tricks from their fancy hats, but it will only destroy them.

Or maybe Goff would do something crazy like get Winnie to join Labour. Winnie will use his awesome charismatic prowess to oust Goff before the elections, and then somehow win. Goff (and Labour) deserves a coup de grace. 		Cato (6936)
1174602 2011-02-03 18:19:00 Labour is likely to try anything to regain power,it's a wonder they have not picked up the payment made in Australia of $6000 to every new child born.

Maybe Labour could call it the "Kiwi Feral Breeding Scheme",plenty of upside for Labour here

Good to see Winston is going to be sent Labours welcome pack of -Complimentary entry ticket to the Rainbow Room,Lube/Condoms,Shane Jone's Video Ezy's frequent users card and a makeover kit from Phil Goff 		Lawrence (2987)
1174603 2011-02-04 21:56:00 One thing voters need to get their minds round is the concept of the Government's money.

I am sorry to disappoint all the socialists -

There is no such thing as the Government's money, it simply does not exist.
It is the people's money, it is your taxes that the Government has taken off you, and you should not allow any Government to use your money for their political ends -
The people's money should only be used to benefit the people, not to keep a self centred, self seeking, group of politicians in power, and when they make election promises to keep themselves in power, then they are bribing you with your own money.

There is no such thing as a free meal - if a government tries to screw the bosses, then the boss is going to find the money from somewhere, either to the cost of his employees, or as a cost to his customers.

If a government tries to screw the workers, then the employers and society in general are going to pay through increased industrial action.

If the Government promises generous increases to social welfare then the productive sector of society, ie all those who work and pay taxes are going to suffer the government putting its hand in their pockets for more taxes.

An election should be the contesting parties standing up to be judges by the people on their performance or lack thereof.

It should not be a pork barrell auction on which party is suddenly going to do more by spending more of your money.

Rien the bastards in, you only get a say each three years to decide who will be the dictator for the next parliament.

Keep in mind that the numbers of people going into politics for altruistic reasons is very close to zero. They all have a personal agenda no matter what they tell you.

One final thing to keep in mind, new blood does not flow into politics in a steady flow, when you get sick of one government and vote them out, it is highly likely that the party winning power is lead be a career politician who previously was a member of a government that everyone had had a gutsful of and threw out. 		KenESmith (6287)
1174604 2011-02-04 22:00:00 Not that according to the latest poll NZ First has now hit 5.5 %, Labour has gone up and Nats have gone down. Snorkbox (15764)
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