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Thread ID: 115693	2011-01-30 19:58:00	Working For An Apologist Regime Meister -----	SurferJoe46 (51)	PC World Chat

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1173802	2011-01-30 19:58:00	Hill The Pill (US Sec of Defense) has issued a statement trying to save face and not humiliate the US pro-Israel attitude for the past thirty years in Egypt, and has issued a video and a transcript of it at THIS LINK (www.msnbc.msn.com). BLURB:: With Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak in danger of being toppled by waves of street protests, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Sunday urged “a peaceful, orderly transition to a democratic regime,” but refused to engage in speculation about possible U.S. sanctuary for Mubarak if he were driven into exile. Appearing on NBC’s Meet the Press, Clinton told NBC’s David Gregory the central issue was not whether Mubarak was taking the necessary steps to salvage his 30-year rule, but whether he would respond to “the legitimate needs and grievances expressed by the Egyptian people and chart a new path.” If Egypt goes Radical, then Yemen, Jordan and other countries in the region will fall pall-mall into the same pot.	SurferJoe46 (51)
1173803	2011-01-30 20:19:00	I dont think these countries will go radical, they just want to get rid of their dictators and repressive laws.	prefect (6291)
1173804	2011-01-30 20:33:00	Agree with Prefect (did I say that?). Thus far in all the news reports there has been no mention of any movement towards Islamism or a greater anti Israeli position by those people demonstrating. Egypt sounds even more liberal than Turkey in terms of sticking to a democratic secular state.	John H (8)
1173805	2011-01-30 20:38:00	The US liked the disintegration of the Ottoman Empire. It suited their oil interests to have them fragment and squabble amongst themselves. Throw in Israel and it keeps them all busy, thus allowing oil to be siphoned off without any hassles.	pctek (84)
1173806	2011-01-30 21:06:00	You still don't understand this 'oil' slant . Since OPEC demands gold and not paper money, the US is slowly selling short after having bought long and this is all the plan to bring the US economy to it's bend-over, kneeling position awaiting the head chopper . Sure - oil is important and the resultant strangling of US oil drilling and all the Eco-stuff about it, perhaps they thought it was a good idea to use up OPEC's supplies and then go after Mexico's - but the Mexican Oil situation fell apart when the US tried to get Mexico into bed and siphon off their state-owned oil reserves . Mexico's Presidente Fox was going for it - but the rest of the cabinet in Mexico wasn't . They offered instead the Mexican coal fields - but their coal is below third rate for extremely high sulfur content and would require more money to make it viable than it could be sold for . Until now, that is . The US gasoline is being kicked around as going to a new-record high of $5 . 00/gallon and that will force a review of alternate energy sources . Coal, at least liquefied coal is a very good option and as soon as the oil fields get somewhat more consumed, then it's hell's bells for using it - especially in the cold season . Forgetting the personal spin here, look a little more globally - something that most US'ers are accused of NOT doing or even being cognizant of - and the picture changes to a global proxy-fight with everyone suffering if the US dollar gets hacked much more . NZ will not be exempt of this deteriorating situation - like it or not .	SurferJoe46 (51)
1173807	2011-01-30 21:09:00	The US liked the disintegration of the Ottoman Empire . It suited their oil interests to have them fragment and squabble amongst themselves . Throw in Israel and it keeps them all busy, thus allowing oil to be siphoned off without any hassles . I don't see it that way - and not from US schools and propaganda . If the Ottoman Empire had remained, it would have had a lot more solidarity and be a lot easier to handle than a bunch of autonomous rag-tag empires and quasi-dictatorships to control like rats in a bag .	SurferJoe46 (51)
1173808	2011-01-30 22:44:00	NZ will not be exempt of this deteriorating situation - like it or not . SJ, very true, at present we don't know which way to jump, selling off the "silverware" or keep borrowing, the latter, which has to be repaid at some future date, but from what ! . Someone writing to The Press this morning mentioned "bonds", same thing here, what happens when they mature, more bonds, lol . Roll On 21 12 2012 . Lurking .	Lurking (218)
1173809	2011-01-30 23:35:00	Jordon is a Kingdom, and they love their King AFAIK....Yemen is already a haven for terrorists!	SolMiester (139)
1173810	2011-01-31 00:09:00	SJ, very true, at present we don't know which way to jump, selling off the "silverware" or keep borrowing, the latter, which has to be repaid at some future date, but from what ! . Someone writing to The Press this morning mentioned "bonds", same thing here, what happens when they mature, more bonds, lol . Roll On 21 12 2012 . Lurking . They will just write it off, they have done it before, cant get blood out of a stone	Gobe1 (6290)
1173811	2011-01-31 00:41:00	They will just write it off, they have done it before, cant get blood out of a stone True for us Mums' and Dads' with the finance companies, but the other lenders' are far bigger fish, EU (Germany is the Boss there) and China, will be hard task masters'. Suppose we could finish up like: Greece, Ireland, Spain, etc. Lurking.	Lurking (218)
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