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Thread ID: 115906	2011-02-08 22:21:00	More benefit changes	QW. (15883)	PC World Chat

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1176518	2011-02-11 20:30:00	Imagine everybody was working most of the time who would buy the products they are offering to the marketplace? All people need to buy things to live and play. If they were working most of the time they would have less time to go shopping.	Bobh (5192)
1176519	2011-02-11 20:56:00	I'm surprised that someone who receives <$300.00 per week could save enough money to buy an air ticket to go overseas! $300/week could hardly cover the routine expenses like, food, accommodation, petrol, and bits and pieces. Maybe this guy should tell the whole NZ how to save money.	bk T (215)
1176520	2011-02-11 21:04:00	Like that article says, there are ways around the system, no system is perfect. Usually what happen if you answer the forms truthfully, they do data matching, so if you get a temp part time work it flags the system or if you are on maybe the student emergency benefit over the summer and went over to Oz for example. Customs will flag it when your passport is accessed. But $300 a week, it did say he spent about $28k and the payment to his a/c was ongoing even when he was overseas. As it says he slept in the car to save money, at other times you could get $10 places to stay or even $5 - but you rough it. Think Thailand and India ... Hitchhiking ... Plus to get started if he was living with friends/family he could save up an amount first to build a buffer. NZ food are a bit expensive. In a place lik Singapore the standards of living is generally higher but transport is no more than $2.50 for the subway, food can be had at hawker centres at $5.00 but if you move into the areas where locals are you get them cheaper, and if you pick the cheaper meals ..... $3.00 meals in Singapore has been quoted on the Lonely Planet Guide. Then again if you move out into other countries like Egypt, Vietnam they are even cheaper.	Nomad (952)
1176521	2011-02-11 21:08:00	It did not say that the benefit was the only income either. Perhaps he harvested a Mariuanja plantation before he left.	Snorkbox (15764)
1176522	2011-02-11 21:30:00	Like that article says, there are ways around the system, no system is perfect. Usually what happen if you answer the forms truthfully, they do data matching, so if you get a temp part time work it flags the system or if you are on maybe the student emergency benefit over the summer and went over to Oz for example. Customs will flag it when your passport is accessed. But $300 a week, it did say he spent about $28k and the payment to his a/c was ongoing even when he was overseas. As it says he slept in the car to save money, at other times you could get $10 places to stay or even $5 - but you rough it. Think Thailand and India ... Hitchhiking ... Plus to get started if he was living with friends/family he could save up an amount first to build a buffer. NZ food are a bit expensive. In a place lik Singapore the standards of living is generally higher but transport is no more than $2.50 for the subway, food can be had at hawker centres at $5.00 but if you move into the areas where locals are you get them cheaper, and if you pick the cheaper meals ..... $3.00 meals in Singapore has been quoted on the Lonely Planet Guide. Then again if you move out into other countries like Egypt, Vietnam they are even cheaper. When he was still in NZ, how did he manage to save the money for his air ticket at the first place? If he has some other source of income, it's a different story all together. It did not say that the benefit was the only income either. Perhaps he harvested a Mariuanja plantation before he left. That could be the case.	bk T (215)
1176523	2011-02-11 21:37:00	When he was still in NZ, how did he manage to save the money for his air ticket at the first place? If he has some other source of income, it's a different story all together. Don't know for this guy, but for some beneficiaries they stay home with friends and family so they may only contribute little to the finance given their unemployed situation. In otherwords it says he is getting about $300/week, if he contributes $100 to his househodl and they shelter and feed him, pay the bills. He still has $200 left over. Who knows family/friends may even help him out by sharing the cost of the ticket. It's all possible. Thing is the benefit, you sign up and go there for a no. of seminars, they don't really ask you to come in for regular checkups. It is not uncommon to not hear from them for 6 months or even 12 months. Even for 2011 they make you re-register but for many of them, there is little follow up. IMO either thinking your skillset is not a match or the applicant may want something else or that they think the applicant is decent enought to get their own job, like in this case a guy in the 30s and seems to be intelligent enough with approp. communication skills. ... Then again receiving $300/week is not the normal unemployed benefit I don't think, he would prob have other stuff tooo ....	Nomad (952)
1176524	2011-02-11 22:36:00	It did not say that the benefit was the only income either. Perhaps he harvested a Mariuanja plantation before he left. Or sold himself to make the money for the airfare	QW. (15883)
1176525	2011-02-12 06:22:00	What do say about this Freedom guy PCteck ?	Digby (677)
1176526	2011-02-12 06:26:00	I think the guy is a friken genius, but look out if he ever returns, he will need a different passport	Gobe1 (6290)
1176527	2011-02-13 22:03:00	When he was still in NZ, how did he manage to save the money for his air ticket at the first place? If he has some other source of income, it's a different story all together. Winz says he had seasonal work at times ... www.stuff.co.nz Althou Winz says his monitoring has been reduced, well then how does one get the benefit for 2yrs without their pay being cancelled when they don't have to go in the office. Then again the article says 600 odd benefits has not been re-applied. To me it seems thou if they applied they would get it if their circumstance has not changed ... so what's changed :confused: Gotta have a extreme case until it is denied like if you have other work or heaps of money. For the main portion of the benefit it is income tested, not asset tested. I think kiwibonds or something might even be exempt from income generated dividends. Or alternatively you could put the funds into a non interest generating account. With lots of assets it just means you cannot get the extra assistance like medical, food vouchers, cost to attend interviews and clothing etc ..	Nomad (952)
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