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Thread ID: 115953 2011-02-11 05:45:00 Jesus. Cicero (40) PC World Chat
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1177119 2011-02-11 20:00:00 Outside of certain of the writings included in that collection called the bible, there are no references to such a person anywhere.

??

Try the Koran for one. And some Indian works also make references as well.
WalOne (4202)
1177120 2011-02-11 20:34:00 Who are you to say any form of belief is better than any other?

Ahaha knew I'd wind someone up.

Not really sure if I'd call it a belief though....atheist sure, but agnostic....hmmm
--Wolf-- (128)
1177121 2011-02-11 20:37:00 To be honest I don't 'get' why people put so much effort and money and faith into jesus etc


Its like crack to a cracker head, if they allow themselves to buy into the fantasy then it feels so good that they can't let it go, It makes so much sense to them that they want everyone around them to know it as well.

It fills some need buried within them to belong to something bigger, to be important, and loved, looked after, and they get a guarantee that everything is fine and the promised land awaits.
Metla (12)
1177122 2011-02-11 21:03:00 Its like crack to a cracker head, if they allow themselves to buy into the fantasy then it feels so good that they can't let it go, It makes so much sense to them that they want everyone around them to know it as well.

It fills some need buried within them to belong to something bigger, to be important, and loved, looked after, and they get a guarantee that everything is fine and the promised land awaits.

So why don't they just join PressF1 instead? A far more positive use of time and energy!!

:banana
johcar (6283)
1177123 2011-02-11 21:35:00 ??

Try the Koran for one. And some Indian works also make references as well.

The Koran mostly is the same.
I mean archealogical writings. Non-religious stuff.
Accounts by Romans for instance.
Romans in Israel at the time even.
pctek (84)
1177124 2011-02-11 21:42:00 Unfortunately some Christians give Jesus a bad name. wmoore (6009)
1177125 2011-02-11 22:55:00 The Koran mostly is the same.
I mean archealogical writings. Non-religious stuff.
Accounts by Romans for instance.
Romans in Israel at the time even.

There are the writings by Josephus (c37 - 100), who referred to Jesus the Messiah. en.wikipedia.org

So he is contemporary with the gospels rather than Jesus himself, but I understand he is the closest in time (should have been living memory). Does AD refer to the year of the birth of Jesus, or the death? If it was the birth (as I think it is), then Josephus' birth is about the time of the Crucifixion (if it occurred that is).

I cracked up reading the comments above asking whether Jesus was a christian name! Perhaps you mean 'first' or 'given' name! You can't really use the term christian in relation to Jesus - if he existed at all, he was a Jew. Usually referred to as Jesus of Nazareth, or Jesus Christ (Grk Christos meaning 'the anointed one', translation from Hebrew 'the Messiah'). I don't think he had a 'christian' name and a family name as we would understand it, especially as christian wasn't invented till after he and his cobbers invented it, by which time he was already named!
John H (8)
1177126 2011-02-11 23:28:00 Was their ever a War that didn’t involve Religion?

Sort of says it all doesn’t it?
B.M. (505)
1177127 2011-02-12 01:30:00 Christianity - Belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Yeah, That makes perfect sense. :confused: tuiruru (12277)
1177128 2011-02-12 01:57:00 Outside of certain of the writings included in that collection called the bible, there are no references to such a person anywhere .

There is more historical evidence that Jesus Christ lived than there is that Julius Caesar ever did . Not including Bible sources, the following people wrote about Jesus:

The Jewish historian Josephus (A . D . 37-100)

Pliny the Younger, imperial Roman Legate of Bythynia - in a letter to Emperor Trajan in A . D . 112

Tacitus - the important Roman historian

Suetonius - a Roman historian who compiled a biography of the first twelve Roman emperors in his "Life of Claudius"

Thallus and Julius Africanus in A . D . 52

Mara bar Serpion

In addition, there are thousands upon thousands of archaeological findings that point to Jesus existence .

It is NOT a question or argument therewith DID Jesus Christ exist but rather WHO was he . Was Jesus Christ Lord, a liar, or a lunatic? That is what YOU must decide, not that he never existed .
kandjc (15143)
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