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Thread ID: 115960	2011-02-11 21:12:00	Using a HDD DVD recorder with Freeview	John H (8)	PC World Chat

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1177197	2011-02-11 21:12:00	I hope youse fullas can help a newbie to digital TV . In our bedroom, we have a TV with an inbuilt Freeview tuner . There is no Sky feed (ie feed from the satellite dish) to the bedroom . If I connect our current HDD DVD recorder (Pioneer DVR-630H) to that TV, presumably it will not work as a recorder when the analogue signal is turned off - I assume it has an analogue tuner, and as it would be attached 'upstream' of the TV tuner it would not be receiving a readable signal from the terrestrial aerial? Is there any way of linking a HDD DVD recorder to the 'Freeview' TV 'downstream', so it receives its signal from the TV rather than the aerial? I hope that makes sense! I can't see how I could do this, but I am asking just in case . . . If I attach it now upstream of the TV in the usual way, I assume that this would disrupt the signal to the TV? At least that is what happened when I attached a VHS to the TV . Any info gratefully received . . . Thanks, John .	John H (8)
1177198	2011-02-11 22:22:00	You could do it 2 ways if the TV has the connections. If your TV has a RF out socket you could connect it to the RF in of your recorder or if your TV has a video socket you could connect it that way to the video in sockets of your recorder. The video out lead has three RCA cables on it a Yellow one for the video and a red and black one for the audio. :)	Trev (427)
1177199	2011-02-11 22:44:00	Thanks Trev. No RF out, so that way is not possible. However, there appear to be video out RCA sockets on the side of the tv. Sadly the TV manual is useless - there is no diagram or text to say what all the sockets are for - and the RCA sockets on the TV itself are not labelled. The sockets on the side of the TV are marked with an arrow pointing into a circle shape, whereas all the other RCA sockets on the back have arrows pointing into a TV screen shape, so I am guessing the side ones must be video and audio out. I guess the only thing to do is suck it and see. Thanks very much.	John H (8)
1177200	2011-02-11 23:00:00	1 No, it would not. 2 The TV should have video outputs (composite, component, s-video (in order of better quality)), the downside of this is you'll need to have the TV on to record from, the only way around this is to have a separate Freeview Terrestrial set top box. I dont think you can record HDMI. 3 Not sure what you mean by this, are you talking RF aerial cable or something else. The video out lead has three RCA cables on it, a Yellow one for the video and red and black ones for the audio. This is composite output, the worst quality of picture, would strongly recommend you don't use this, if you want a decent picture. The sockets on the side of the TV are marked with an arrow pointing into a circle shape, whereas all the other RCA sockets on the back have arrows pointing into a TV screen shape, so I am guessing the side ones must be video and audio out (this would be composite video in, for video gaming). I would say any outputs would have an arrow pointing out (not in), do you have any smallish round multi pin connectors (s-video), or rca sockets coloured red/green/blue in a group (component)? Can you take a photo of the connectors on the back of the TV and post it here?	feersumendjinn (64)
1177201	2011-02-11 23:14:00	... This is composite output, the worst quality of picture, would strongly recommend you don't use this, if you want a decent picture. ... Probably his only option. I've never seen a tv with anything better than composite out (for video at least).	pine-o-cleen (2955)
1177202	2011-02-11 23:34:00	feersumendjinn: 1. Thanks. 2. Thanks. I suspected I may need a set top box, which is a pain. 3. I was assuming RCA cable, given there is no RF out on the TV. I have attached the photos - two of the back, and one of the side. The flash, and resizing the pix have messed up the colours on the side - top to bottom = yellow, white, red. The cables that are in the pix attach a DVD player to the TV. RF aerial cable disconnected for the photo.	John H (8)
1177203	2011-02-12 00:00:00	According to this www.sony.lv and your photos, you have no outputs except for digital (and maybe analogue) audio, and HDMI, so I guess you'll need to go for another settop box.:groan:	feersumendjinn (64)
1177204	2011-02-12 01:06:00	Oh bum . Thanks anyway! I suppose that means there will be a terrible number of folks around the country with Freeview TVs who will be waking up to this fact, that their TVs may work post analogue, but their 'peripherals' won't without spending more dosh . And there seem to be precious few DVD recorders on the market that have digital tuners at this stage .	John H (8)
1177205	2011-02-12 01:45:00	I had the same problem with my Dick Smith HDD DVD recorder. I was able to set it up for analogue TV so that the Dick Smith recorder become the tuner and I could record TV on it. When I got freeview I persevered trying to get my Dick Smith recorder to do the same thing. I gave up in the end. I bought a DishTV S7050 PVR set top box. This saves recordings to a USB drive that can be replayed on the set top box or transferred to your computer. This works. I now also have a TV card installed in my computer. The aerial is connected directly into my TV card so I can now watch and record live TV to a 1 Tb hard drive on my computer. During the software setup the TV card was recognised as a set top box. This works well for me and I prefer it rather than recording from the set top box. I still use the Dick Smith recorder for playing DVDs, swapping VHS tapes to DVD or occasionally putting camera footage directly onto DVD unedited.	Bobh (5192)
1177206	2011-02-12 02:04:00	Bobh.............what TV card do you have? Thx	kandjc (15143)
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