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Thread ID: 116131	2011-02-18 01:38:00	Borders and Whitcoulls	DeSade (984)	PC World Chat

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1179463	2011-02-19 02:53:00	Take goods to counter, hand over voucher and walk out. no worries. Not enough people would have the balls to do that. Plus I bet they've hired security guards to stop that sort of thing happening. Would they try and do you for shoplifting? Possibly. Technically, would they be breaking the law if they allowed vouchers to be redeemed while in administration? There is something about not allowing preference for unsecured creditors. As a voucher holder, you become an unsecured creditor. All a bit hazy if you ask me. I'm not surprised there's so many pissed off people, especially those who have bought or received vouchers in the last few days/weeks as gifts. Moral of the story is never buy vouchers. Cash is king.	legod (4626)
1179464	2011-02-19 02:58:00	Moral of the story is never buy vouchers. Cash is king. I always think of cash as a versatile gift voucher.	mikebartnz (21)
1179465	2011-02-19 03:10:00	For what it's worth "administration" is the Australian version of the US Chapter 11 bankruptcy. The company is allowed to try and trade it's way out as apposed to the NZ version, receivership that basically says your gone.	paulw (1826)
1179466	2011-02-19 05:44:00	Not enough people would have the balls to do that. Plus I bet they've hired security guards to stop that sort of thing happening. Would they try and do you for shoplifting? Possibly. Technically, would they be breaking the law if they allowed vouchers to be redeemed while in administration? There is something about not allowing preference for unsecured creditors. As a voucher holder, you become an unsecured creditor. All a bit hazy if you ask me. I'm not surprised there's so many pissed off people, especially those who have bought or received vouchers in the last few days/weeks as gifts. Moral of the story is never buy vouchers. Cash is king. Well if anyone has vouchers in wellington and want me to give it a try, I will.	plod (107)
1179467	2011-02-19 06:09:00	Not enough people would have the balls to do that. Plus I bet they've hired security guards to stop that sort of thing happening. Would they try and do you for shoplifting? Possibly. Technically, would they be breaking the law if they allowed vouchers to be redeemed while in administration? There is something about not allowing preference for unsecured creditors. As a voucher holder, you become an unsecured creditor. All a bit hazy if you ask me. I'm not surprised there's so many pissed off people, especially those who have bought or received vouchers in the last few days/weeks as gifts. Moral of the story is never buy vouchers. Cash is king. Yes, they have hired extra security staff. They are not breaking the law I don't think. The law juts says that they don't have to honour them. As I understand they are honouring them if you spend more. But they could just say no.	Nomad (952)
1179468	2011-02-19 06:38:00	I detest reading ebooks, I am sure it's enjoyable on a Kindle or a Galaxy tab or iPad, but I can't do it on a desktop or a laptop, I find it all too annoying . Just out of interest, do the K/G/iP readers allow you to bookmark a page, or offer the ability to flick back through the pages to pick up the spot whre you missed something first time round, or if you want to check context? I can't imagine reading books one page at a time and not being able to flip back through pages, bookmark a page with a train tcket whatever comes to hand, or jump ahead a few to get an idea of where it is heading . Books fit in a back pocket, your lunch bag or any other convenient spot . You can put them on the back or front seat of your car and leave it unlocked, the local thieves' collective can't even recognise a book, let alone read it, so the chances of it being stolen are zilch . They don't need recharging, their hardware can be repaired in minutes with sellotape, software problems (wetware actually) never corrupt the contents, the worst that static electricity can do is make the pages stick together . and you can drop them from 30,000 feet and they will still work perfectly when you get back down there pick them up . Though not usually waterproof, they are water-tolerant, so you can read them in the bath, and if you drop them in water, with a little patience you can dry them out and the data is completely usable, even though the storage medium may be a little discoloured or wrinkled, and in an emergency you can use early chapters as toilet paper . Ttry wiping yourself down with a iPad or a Kindle and see how kind it is to your nether regions! I have books that are 50, 100 and more years old; the oldest is 208 years and dates back to the birth of NZ and the period of the French/British competition to see who could claim the country first . It is a French-English tutorial, printed in 1800, bought in Brussells in 1848, then dated 1850 for its arrival in New Zealand, just 10 years after the treaty of Waitangi was signed . I'm not a luddite, but E-books leave me stone cold and shivering! Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
1179469	2011-02-19 06:52:00	I think that printed books are essential - there is no genuine electronic version of the Stanley Steamer Workshop Manual, and Henry Ford apparently never even heard of e-books. A friend of mine ordered a manual from Daimler for his pride and joy, remitted the Seventy Pounds demanded and received a pile of about 30 foolscap loose sheets in the familiar meths-scented purple ink. There was a bit of purple prose when he proudly opened the parcel; although later he admitted the manual was far better than the car. He burned it in the fireplace, try that with a download.	R2x1 (4628)
1179470	2011-02-19 07:02:00	I think there is always a need for a book. I wouldn't want to study a textbook off a digital device, nor the Lonely Planet book. For me it is a lot easier, to flip thru pages, use a pen and make notes and make markings ... There is a sizeable market out there for digital. If you just want the info or just for recreational reading. I don't imagine many people think about the what ifs (like water). I imagine that many people don't look for water resistance in books. They might be caught out in the rain or have drinks spilt on it thoug ... Maybe like digital photography, people shoot thousands of images and share thousands of images electronically and make "few" prints. One could argue that if you don't have film - you need to make backups - but many people are fine by not making backups - for some even repeatedly. Maybe they would just reshoot it .. or get their friends to send them a few images. For the eBook, just buy another .. Film cameras needs less recharging too but now they are pretty much non-existent. I still shoot film but I am the minority. It's so expensive here, I have to collect them up and send them overseas to process my slides.	Nomad (952)
1179471	2011-02-19 08:24:00	Not enough people would have the balls to do that . Plus I bet they've hired security guards to stop that sort of thing happening . Would they try and do you for shoplifting? Possibly . I got a voucher for my birthday last year and hadn't got around to redeeming it, unfortunately . Hubby said to go and do it today so we did . The store had a big burly security guard at the door who moved behind us very quickly when he saw us having a discussion with the staff at the counter about having to spend the equivalent money in order to cash in the voucher . He must have thought we looked like trouble . :rolleyes: :D Didn't want to risk losing the voucher so ended up forking out for an extra book as well as the one I chose . :( I hate vouchers . :mad:	FoxyMX (5)
1179472	2011-02-19 08:43:00	I spend the odd lunch time browsing dvd's at Whitcoulls . They have a pretty good selection in the Lambton Quay branch and I even buy some occasionally . Yes I could buy them online but I tend to buy them on sale at The Warehouse (I know its not books but Whitcoulls stock other stuff to) . I like the way that Stuff spoke to Mike from Trademe presumably as a "expert" . But they are not experts in bricks and mortar shops .	dolby digital (5073)
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