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Thread ID: 118847	2011-06-23 13:24:00	What to replace my Norton with.	8ftmetalhaed (14526)	Press F1

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1211472	2011-06-23 13:24:00	My sub runs out in 10 days. I'm either gonna renew it (much to your horrors, I guess), or switch to either Eset or MSSE. Wondering which option would be the best. What can Eset do that MSSE can't? And are they both full suites or just antivirus? And what of windows firewall if they are just antivirus? I mean, I've had few/no problems with norton, but I took offense to it when it repeatedly let a program called RelevantKnowledge through and said it was safe, just because a few hundred thousand people had it. Hmm. It was only market research stuff but still. on MY pc?! Other than that it's been fine, but yeah if the benefits/performance gains are good enough I'll switch or something.	8ftmetalhaed (14526)
1211473	2011-06-23 13:32:00	Depends what version of NOD you install. One installs the AV the other the AV and firewall. MSSE doesnt inc a firewall. But it can pick up viruses etc over a network (if you copy whatever to a shared folder) relevantknowledge is classed as malware (www.bleepingcomputer.com)	Speedy Gonzales (78)
1211474	2011-06-23 14:39:00	yeh i know about RK, i MBAM'd it. I would like to have something pretty secure, as it is i've had but a few intrusions, all self inflicted, and i want it to basically stay that way, what with our use of ebay and internet banking and the like. Looks like I might have to spring for an Eset suite. Is it easiest to get it through their website?	8ftmetalhaed (14526)
1211475	2011-06-23 15:14:00	Eset was ranked 9th in the top 10 paid AV software in 2011, according to PCWorld.. It does a reasonable job at blocking brand new attacks and it's fast, but it has trouble detecting known malware and cleaning up infections, which makes it tough to recommend. That speed is good, but all the speed in the world doesn't mean much if a security product doesn't effectively stop malware. And given NOD32's struggles, we can't give it our recommendation. Nortons was ranked No.1 Of the free ones, MSSE was ranked No.3. MSSE utilises Windows Firewall. If I was going to pay for one, I would probably stick with Nortons AV - I dont like their Internet Security package much though. But Eset running with Malwarebytes might be a solution if you really wanted to go with Eset. Hope that helps a little. Cheers	Iantech (16386)
1211476	2011-06-23 15:31:00	Don't forget that those were 'laboratory tests' NOT real world examples. We've got users on here who have used and have proven the effectiveness of NOD and MSSE.	bob_doe_nz (92)
1211477	2011-06-23 19:43:00	Eset was ranked 9th in the top 10 paid AV software in 2011, according to PCWorld.. Nortons was ranked No.1 Of the free ones, MSSE was ranked No.3. MSSE utilises Windows Firewall. But they picked the results out of the air. A little search through this forum will show some real world tests done by Wainuitech and it shows Nortons does not find much. My own experiences as a tech confirm that. The main difference between MSSE and NOD32 is one is free. Although I'm inclined towards NOD more, I think it has the slight edge in detection.	pctek (84)
1211478	2011-06-23 20:29:00	I dont think any respected company would publish results "picked out of the air". I think you would find the results are based on the tests carried out using several types of viruses, malware, spyware etc. which detected the most and what did a better job of sanitising the system. PCWorlds results along with WT's results will vary depending what they have been tested with as no AV engine is 100%. Some pick up some better than others. If a system I was working on had Nortons and I knew it had a virus and nortons wouldnt pick it up, I would install AVG which often picked it up and dealt with it and I do the same with MSSE when required. In my own experiences, you might as well install MSSE for a general cover and deal with any other bugs when they turn up. However, if I was going to pay for AV software, I would like a product that detects and deals with a broader cross range of virues/malware and I believe Nortons picks up around 90-95% of known issues which is better than most.	Iantech (16386)
1211479	2011-06-23 21:22:00	I dont think any respected company would publish results "picked out of the air". I think you would find the results are based on the tests carried out using several types of viruses, malware, spyware etc. which detected the most and what did a better job of sanitising the system. PCWorlds results along with WT's results will vary depending what they have been tested with as no AV engine is 100%. Some pick up some better than others. If a system I was working on had Nortons and I knew it had a virus and nortons wouldnt pick it up, I would install AVG which often picked it up and dealt with it and I do the same with MSSE when required. In my own experiences, you might as well install MSSE for a general cover and deal with any other bugs when they turn up. However, if I was going to pay for AV software, I would like a product that detects and deals with a broader cross range of virues/malware and I believe Nortons picks up around 90-95% of known issues which is better than most. you'd be surprised what gets published as results I would go on Wainuitech's testing/reccomendations any day of the week over what "lab results say about AV products. Example: when we got out brand new desktop several years ago, it came with a Norton subscription. it began to constantly crash/lockup, a tech friend of mine, and this forum which i joined as a result, all suggested ESET Nod32 and to get rid of Norton asap. running Nod32 picked up so much bad stuff that Norton's missed it wasn't funny, been using it every since. does Norton's pick up malicious links???, Nod32 does. AV test under "lab" conditions are not representative of what really happens or has happened to those who have asked for real world opinions/advice. You'll find no-one on this forum holds Norton's in any high regard nor would recommend it to anyone	GameJunkie (72)
1211480	2011-06-23 21:29:00	There is nothing like real world experience with AV products - NOD32 walks all over Norton. You couldn't pay me to use it.	wratterus (105)
1211481	2011-06-23 21:31:00	There is nothing like real world experience with AV products - NOD32 walks all over Norton. You couldn't pay me to use it. +1!	Chilling_Silence (9)
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