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Thread ID: 116349	2011-02-28 04:50:00	Maori Earthquake	Snorkbox (15764)	PC World Chat

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1182100	2011-03-01 00:31:00	Wow yeah, wheres happy harry when you need him...	Gobe1 (6290)
1182101	2011-03-01 00:32:00	lol I was thinking the same always touchy though these subjects, easy targets come out and things said in the spare of the moment...	rob_on_guitar (4196)
1182102	2011-03-01 01:05:00	The only thing I find insulting about the word is that it is being used to define us, There is no such people, and the revisionists are simply hijacking the word to elevate maori away from the rest of the population. I don't recorgnise that maori have the position to define who I am. Also, its not about hatred, Its about New Zealenders getting worried about the resentment being installed into the population, This is propagated by sepratist policy and pandering to the belief that maori shouldn't have to follow the riues of society, it leads to the rejection of our society and as we have seen a separate system based on race. Bad juju. As for our kids, I install no attitude towards maori with my sons, its not an issue, we don't believe in racisim in our household, Race doesn't get a mention. Pretty well knocks the nail on the head.	prefect (6291)
1182103	2011-03-01 03:16:00	The maori dude on the news last night said all bro's were welcome . The bastards kicked us out a few years ago - they won't even give my kids a passport, even though their mother is English born. Why for goodness' sake would I identify with that bunch of pricks? I prefer to identify with the place where my family have put down roots. Why no passport, I have a English born parent and have a British passport	plod (107)
1182104	2011-03-01 03:20:00	Pretty well knocks the nail on the head. x2	WalOne (4202)
1182105	2011-03-01 03:29:00	(snip) Why no passport, I have a English born parent and have a British passport Is your English born parent your father, plod? The Brits only recognise patriality - so if your father or his father were English born, you can get a UK passport. Tough if your mother was a Brit or the mother's father was a Brit (that is the case for our kids - my wife was English born and so were both of her parents). The Brits do not recognise matrial descent for British passports (I suppose they are now Euro passports?). It goes back to Enoch Powell's day I believe. I understand that it was their way of handling the huge number of people from the Caribbean, India, and Pakistan who were claiming to be British subjects and wanting a passport. Almost everyone knows and can prove who their mother is, whereas there are many people who either do not know or cannot prove who their father was (I gather this was particularly true at the time for people whose fathers were of Caribbean origin). Thus, if you cut out the parents of one gender, you reduce the numbers by at least 50% - if you choose the father as the only legitimate source of descent, that figure skyrockets, thus reducing the number of eligible people to way below 50% of potential claimants. My kids have some rights of residence, but they are being eroded nowadays by the British government as well. My wife's family in England think that is fair enough - their kids have no rights at all in NZ, so why should our kids be privileged? The Irish are far more liberal - they have a policy that Mary Robinson called "A Candle in the Window", to welcome home people who are descended from many Irish families who were in effect forced to migrate.	John H (8)
1182106	2011-03-01 04:11:00	Look at England now and thats with a 50% possible reduction in immigrants over the years. Although the Englanders deserve everything they got by colonizing about 1/4 of the world its come back to bite them in the ass.	prefect (6291)
1182107	2011-03-01 04:28:00	We did the same thing to the people from Western Samoa after we had been the colonising power there. A young woman called Lesa proved her case in court that she was a British subject and was entitled to a NZ passport. David Lange's government panicked at the thought of all those naughty Samoans having the right to come here and live, so the law was changed - in effect it was a retrospective law change to take away rights of a relatively small group of Samoans. The NZ government claimed to have consulted with the Western Samoan government before doing it, but it was a fait accompli.	John H (8)
1182108	2011-03-01 04:32:00	Dude, you are on a roll!As are you Keep rolling like that and you'll end up in his a$$	Myth (110)
1182109	2011-03-01 04:40:00	We did the same thing to the people from Western Samoa after we had been the colonising power there . A young woman called Lesa proved her case in court that she was a British subject and was entitled to a NZ passport . David Lange's government panicked at the thought of all those naughty Samoans having the right to come here and live, so the law was changed - in effect it was a retrospective law change to take away rights of a relatively small group of Samoans . The NZ government claimed to have consulted with the Western Samoan government before doing it, but it was a fait accompli . We can blame the blardy Germans for that, should have given it back to them after 1918 .	prefect (6291)
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