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| Thread ID: 116360 | 2011-02-28 18:57:00 | Ken Ring on Campbell Live last night | Colpol (444) | PC World Chat |
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| 1182477 | 2011-03-11 22:17:00 | but in the meantime his opponents have put up not a scrap of evidence to suggest he is completely wrong. . :) Opponents don't have to put up any evidence of anything, it is his theory and he has to demonstrate it is correct. I have asked a fair few time on here what evidence would disprove the theory. It is a really simple questions yet the Ken Ring followers appear completely incapable of answering it. This is not uncommon in follower of pseudo-science they try and turn the onus of proof on to providing evidence their theory isn't correct, rather than providing any evidence it is. Falsifiability, particularly testability, is an important in the advancement of science. This isn't science though. |
Twelvevolts (5457) | ||
| 1182478 | 2011-03-11 22:20:00 | No wonder NZ has a skeptics society, at least they they can keep the psychos honest. | prefect (6291) | ||
| 1182479 | 2011-03-11 23:12:00 | Ken Ring charges $79 for his books. His motives for misleading people is clear. Lets face it, intellectually challenged people believe in all sorts of wacky ideas, the internet provides the medium for people to literally brainwash themselves the more they read. Logic seems to escape many individuals. |
Battleneter2 (9361) | ||
| 1182480 | 2011-03-11 23:16:00 | Opponents don't have to put up any evidence of anything, it is his theory and he has to demonstrate it is correct . I have asked a fair few time on here what evidence would disprove the theory . It is a really simple questions yet the Ken Ring followers appear completely incapable of answering it . This is not uncommon in follower of pseudo-science they try and turn the onus of proof on to providing evidence their theory isn't correct, rather than providing any evidence it is . Falsifiability, particularly testability, is an important in the advancement of science . This isn't science though . Well done 2v . :thumbs: What and excellent example of what’s known as narrow mindedness . :lol: |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1182481 | 2011-03-11 23:33:00 | Let’s concentrate on playing the "Ball" not the "Man" . I wouldn’t know Ken Ring if I tripped over him in the street, so it would be completely out of order for me to comment on his mental state, unlike others on here . However, as has been repeated ad nauseam and as you have confirmed above, the question is: “Could the position of the Sun Moon and Planets have an effect on triggering earthquakes?” (Tidal effect if you like) . Many of us don’t see why not, and all those with opposing views have produced in their defence is personal abuse against Ken Ring and anyone prepared to hear him out . It is well documented that almost all of the great Physicists were considered nut cases by some, at some point in their careers . I’m not saying that Ken Ring will ever be remembered as a great Physicist, or even be remembered at all for that matter, but in the meantime his opponents have put up not a scrap of evidence to suggest he is completely wrong . So, until that evidence is provided my mind will remain open . :) You are still not getting the point, it is quite valid to propose or suggest that tidal forces from the our Sun and the Moon may affect or cause the triggering of earthquakes,but that in itself is not a theory . The fact is no one yet knows, though there is that link I gave to suggest tidal forces could do so . Here it is again just to show I don't dismiss the idea of the effect of tidal forces out of hand: . wired . com/wiredscience/2009/12/earthquake-tides/" target="_blank">www . wired . com However it is then another ball game to then claim to be able predict when earthquakes may occur . As 12v has said umpteen times it is up to Ring to verify these prediction claims to the satisfaction of the scientific community . You just cannot seem to grasp this concept . As I previously said it is a relative trivial matter to calculate the gravitational forces and the tidal accelerations due to the planets . I mentioned Venus because it is the nearest planet and similar in size to Earth . Its effect on earth is about 1/10,000 that of the Moon, which I would be happy to demonstrate if you don't believe what a scientist says :) Hence I say the effect of planets can be ignored, so there is no point in going on about the planets . The Suns tidal effect is about half that of the Moon . |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 1182482 | 2011-03-11 23:34:00 | blogs.discovermagazine.com | zqwerty (97) | ||
| 1182483 | 2011-03-11 23:46:00 | I was just think only last night, geeze I feel heavier than normal maybe there is a planet alignment going on. As we all know gavity swings wildly here on Earth from the usual 1G to 9G like last night. It was the huge increase in Gravity last night that caused the Japan Earthquake. Its no wonder planes keep falling out of the sky with all this random gravity going on!. (oh BM that's Sarcasm please don't believe it) |
Battleneter2 (9361) | ||
| 1182484 | 2011-03-11 23:47:00 | Well done 2v. :thumbs: What and excellent example of what’s known as narrow mindedness. :lol: You continue to avoid the question - perfect example of a closed mind. :lol: |
Twelvevolts (5457) | ||
| 1182485 | 2011-03-12 00:25:00 | blogs.discovermagazine.com And to highlight a single, simple to read point for the simple minded in this thread who will STILL continue to argue this and that... Despite what a lot of people are saying, there is no way this earthquake was caused by the Moon. |
--Wolf-- (128) | ||
| 1182486 | 2011-03-12 01:44:00 | If the moon tide can have an effect on women, who is to say they dont on the Earths crust? Which it doesn't . So what's your point exactly? Unless you mean in some sort of romantic capacity? Maybe you're suggesting that flowers and chocolates could be also used to predict earthquakes? I was talking to one of the bouncers at the pub I go to and he said they always expect more trouble during a full moon . ] And yet another urban myth that has been studied and debunked . Which you could have figured out if you'd done a bit of research . . wikipedia . org/wiki/Lunar_effect" target="_blank">en . wikipedia . org I wonder what sort of astronomic or physics qualification some of the adamant naysayers have to call the likes of Ken Ring a 'charlatan' or whatever . . . . An open mind is the first step of increasing wealth of knowledge, not rabid, uneducated bandwagon-jumping denial . Why is it so hard to accept the possibility that the people dismissing KR are doing so because they do have more knowledge and facts (or have researched the issue)? Just because you don't have enough info to make a desicion doesn't mean everyone else doesn't either . |
vIQleS (16261) | ||
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