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| 1212365 | 2011-06-27 02:24:00 | All good, i couldnt see the bosses signing off 1500 bucks a month for internet but it has been an interesting project... I rang Orcon and they are checking out what they can offer at the new site I will let you know the damage Not really wanting to pay the price for Fibre or HSNS but am also looking at load sharing 2-3 ADSL2+ lines instead. We need better VPN speed for the Ozzy office being the real driver here |
Gobe1 (6290) | ||
| 1212366 | 2011-06-27 03:23:00 | Depending on your location in relation to the exchange etc, multi-homing ADSL2+ can work well. Otherwise, if you need the upstream, look into HSNS Lite. |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 1212367 | 2011-06-27 03:32:00 | Bear in mind that fibre running past can't necessarily be used for what you want. It would need to be a lot more work than just running fibre 50M to justify 60k. <snip /> The UFB stuff when it gets here will hopefully be a whole lot more affordable than that. Exactly, Fibre isn't the kind of thing you can say "Oh there's Fibre running past my home, I'll just tap into that". No, Fibre doesn't exactly work that way. Be willing to bet 99% of people have never even seen fibre let alone worked with it ;) But yes, when Chorus FTTN hits the 75 -> 80% of the country (Mines going in as we speak, within the next 3 weeks it should be live) at the end of the year, that'll make a *nice* improvements to the speeds for the majority of people, provided they're with a decent ISP which isn't oversubscribing on the international side of things ;) There should be little reason why a user can't run a speedtest to Australia and get full line speeds. If they can't, it's time to bring it up with their ISP and resolve it, or act with your wallet and shift elsewhere. |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 1212368 | 2011-06-27 03:34:00 | All good, i couldnt see the bosses signing off 1500 bucks a month for internet but it has been an interesting project... I rang Orcon and they are checking out what they can offer at the new site I will let you know the damage Not really wanting to pay the price for Fibre or HSNS but am also looking at load sharing 2-3 ADSL2+ lines instead. We need better VPN speed for the Ozzy office being the real driver here What about looking at VHDSL? |
SolMiester (139) | ||
| 1212369 | 2011-06-27 03:47:00 | What about looking at VHDSL? I will check out to see what we can get Map says vdsl installed feb 2011 :) |
Gobe1 (6290) | ||
| 1212370 | 2011-06-27 05:06:00 | Not really wanting to pay the price for Fibre or HSNS but am also looking at load sharing 2-3 ADSL2+ lines instead. We need better VPN speed for the Ozzy office being the real driver here What services are you trying to run over VPN? Maybe you're best to have a dedicated site to site VPN DSL connection for the ozzy stuff if it's just one office. That's what we did in our chch office until we could get fibre/one office pro installed after the feb earthquake. |
Alex B (15479) | ||
| 1212371 | 2011-06-27 05:08:00 | I would wait for UFB to be implemented. I have seen the projected wholesale prices for school connections and it is not known what data charges will be but would expect to be less than you are being quoted. Information here www.crownfibre.govt.nz Even though you are not a school one would hope the cost would compare. |
berryb (99) | ||
| 1212372 | 2011-06-27 11:12:00 | I would wait for UFB to be implemented. I have seen the projected wholesale prices for school connections and it is not known what data charges will be but would expect to be less than you are being quoted. Yeah see that's just for the *connection*, for the home. Data still comes on top of that. Doesn't matter if you're getting VDSL2 or Fibre at 30mbps, only difference may be upload speeds, but you're still going to have to pay for data either way. Entry level Consumer -> 30 Mbps Downstream / 10Mbps Upstream -> Minimum 2.5Mbps Symmetric -> $37.50 That's a wholesale price, that your ISP buys the connection from Telecom off. I promise current DSL wholesale price is significantly less, though data caps will likely be relatively similar between the products. On top of that, your ISP has to pay for everything else internally, such as their accounting, management, helpdesk, recovering costs of sending out crappy free modems, advertising, renting premises, power etc etc, so they ain't gonna make $1 per-customer, per-month and survive... Fibre *will* still be a premium product. It's not going to compete with DSL in terms of entry-level connections. Hell there's still like 15-odd % of the country who use Dial-Up for whatever reason (Price? Internet usage habits?). Why fork out more for DSL, or yet again even MORE for Fibre? That, and there's no current certainty around availability timeframes, so if you want faster internet, then go out and get yourself 100m/bit (We've got 100m/bit national with 10m/bit international), but you pay for it. For us at work, it's working a treat, and well worth the money! If you can get by on multi-homed DSL, then great, or split up one DSL line for Voice, one for VPN, one for email / browsing / other? It's not *that* expensive for a DSL line. |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 1212373 | 2011-06-28 01:04:00 | Hell there's still like 15-odd % of the country who use Dial-Up for whatever reason :crying I have no idea how those people live... Ever... Under any circumstance... (We've got 100m/bit national with 10m/bit international), but you pay for it. For us at work, it's working a treat, and well worth the money! Keen, shout me some too then? :thumbs: |
Empathy. (16382) | ||
| 1212374 | 2011-06-28 02:32:00 | I'm still rocking on with my 0.15mbs up and down + 20k ms pings at peak times. :punk | Fifthdawn (9467) | ||
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