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Thread ID: 118835	2011-06-23 01:37:00	Trying to choose a PSU	wratterus (105)	Press F1

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1211370	2011-06-23 04:52:00	Valid point, so if the difference is so negligible, why stipulate on having one? Because cable management is much easier with a modular PSU. Yes, there is a measurable difference, but it's small enough that imo it doesn't have a real-world impact.	inphinity (7274)
1211371	2011-06-23 05:18:00	Because cable management is much easier with a modular PSU. Yes, there is a measurable difference, but it's small enough that imo it doesn't have a real-world impact. That's my thoughts exactly - looks and cable management, which, to a certain extent, can be the same thing. Put it this way - for my application, the benefits of going modular far outweigh the drawbacks. That is a massive case Wratt...Antec 12 hundred?? I have a few Antec 900 two's here, real nice for cooling I always thought the modular PSUs had their own sleeved cables, or are do you want to modd them to your taste? Yep, the twelvehundred. I wanted a Corsair 800D, but the budget didn't quite stretch that far at the time. i'm very happy wit it though, it is ever so slightly vulgar when viewed at some angles, but not enough to annoy me. The cooling, cable management options and internal layout are very good. Probably the only major thing I think it's missing is a hole in the motherboard backplate for fitting aftermarket CPU coolers. If you want to do anything with the cooler - out comes the motherboard. nothing a bit of work with a dremel and file won't fix though, I should really get around to doing that sometime. As for the cabling, yes, often the major cables are kinda sleeved, but I'm talking about real sleeving (http://psychosleeve.com/). :D	wratterus (105)
1211372	2011-06-23 05:53:00	As for the cabling, yes, often the major cables are kinda sleeved, but I'm talking about real sleeving (http://psychosleeve.com/). :D :stare: Whoa that looks like a lot of work EDIT: Prolimatech coolers dont need upgraded :) Unless you are going liquid nitrogen of course	Gobe1 (6290)
1211373	2011-06-23 06:25:00	:stare: Whoa that looks like a lot of work EDIT: Prolimatech coolers dont need upgraded :) Unless you are going liquid nitrogen of course Yeah maximum work. :p I've been looking at a few mods on bit-tech recently that have had individually sleeved cables, and decided I'd like to give it a go. The Prolimatech is great, i have that fan running at about 800RPM, it's barely audible and the CPU (i7 860) runs around 30 degrees. pretty sure I could actually get away with passively cooling the CPU, with the amount of air passing through that case. If I conservatively averaged the 120mm fans at 90CFM @ 1500RPM then the thing would be moving over 650 CFM, or a massive 39,000 CFM every hour!! The noisest things in that case are the graphics card and PSU needless to say the fans are all on minimum speed, at this time of year. :p	wratterus (105)
1211374	2011-06-23 08:01:00	I prefer the Seasonic or Corsair anyway . +1 BTW, love the pretty blue and black cabling on the PSU pic . LOVE the 2nd pic in your case pics . :drool	pctek (84)
1211375	2011-06-23 22:11:00	+1 for Corsair. I have the HX650 in one machine and have had no issues with it.	autechre (266)
1211376	2011-06-24 04:39:00	LOVE the 2nd pic in your case pics.:drool Thanks! It's a bit messy in there at the moment, will get this new PSU soon and do some real cable management. Might get a bit more lighting too, CCFL or LED strip, hiding behind something.	wratterus (105)
1211377	2011-06-24 11:01:00	The fact is, modular plugs limit power by adding to electrical resistance . The voltage drop can be as much as would occur in 2 feet of standard wire . Worse yet, modular plugs utilize delicate pins that can easily loosen, corrode, and burn, creating the potential for a major system failure . Load of nonsense IMHO The voltage drop would be a few millivolts, which would make no difference whatsoever to system performance and reliability . Motherboards and peripherals are chock full of wafer-thin tracks pared-down to the bare minimum cross-section necessary to carry the required current . There are also plenty of inter-connections none of which will spontaneously loosen or corrode, and most won't burn, simply because they don't carry enough current to generate heat . The voltage drop "can be" several millivolts but almost certainly is not . Not that it would matter, a 3mV drop at 12 amps creates 36mW of heat . That wouldn't raise the temperature enough to burn the eyelashes off an ant . It is quack geek 'science', just like the special high cost power cables for Hi Fi systems that are fed via many metres of ordinary 1 . 5mm TPS (2 . 5mm if you are lucky) inside the walls of the room, and terminate inside the equipment at a couple of equally scrawny conductors feeding a power transforner wound with even smaller copper wire . At the end of the chain is a an electro-acoustic transducer (speaker system) that has more peaks and nulls in its frequency response than the Southern Alps, and if you recorded the speaker output and compared it to the signal input to the amp, you would think they were on separate planets . The human ear and human brain are very egotistical, and tell you exactly what they want you to hear . Cheers Billy 8-{)	Billy T (70)
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