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Thread ID: 116360 2011-02-28 18:57:00 Ken Ring on Campbell Live last night Colpol (444) PC World Chat
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1182387 2011-03-07 21:23:00 Immature antics aside

Ken Ring is flat out wrong, its not even like he has a new theory, this has been investigated with decades of data from events. Sure you can cherry pick the data like he tends to do to support his cover all dates guess work.

The damaging thing is Ken Ring is scaring a lot of emotionally vulnerable people right now , your "open Mindedness" is not helping.

You have repeatedly assured us that Ken Ring is wrong and that the position of other planets has no effect on the Earth.


Ok I can dumb this down further

You = Mass
Tectonic Plates = Mass

Do you nutty believers feel heavier when these lunar events Ken Ring goes on about occur, do you like wobble and fall over? ROTFL. There is well known tiny subtle gravitation differences so in this Ken Ring is correct, but he uses proven science in combination with "easily" proven wrong wild cookoo thinking.

However, you still haven’t explained Summer & Winter and the rise and fall of the tides, given that other planets have no effect.

Just think Battlenetter2 you could revolutionise science and become a legend.:lol:
B.M. (505)
1182388 2011-03-07 23:19:00 I was going to ask if the sun was a planet.... but it isn't, still it has a huge effect, so i googled effects that the moon has on earth.... this wasnt a bad read: library.thinkquest.org

I know nothing about this stuff, but I have a pretty good eye for spotting BS, both JC and KR are well spotted.
rob_on_guitar (4196)
1182389 2011-03-08 01:07:00 I was going to ask if the sun was a planet . . . . but it isn't, still it has a huge effect, so i googled effects that the moon has on earth . . . . this wasnt a bad read: . thinkquest . org/29033/begin/earthsunmoon . htm" target="_blank">library . thinkquest . org

I know nothing about this stuff, but I have a pretty good eye for spotting BS, both JC and KR are well spotted .

Good link Rob . :thumbs:

Did you notice under “The Effect of the Moon” which reads I quote: “The moon has a noticeable effect on the earth in the form of tides, but it also affects the motion and orbit of the Earth .

Now given that we have established that the Sun, Moon and to a lesser degree other Planets all effect the orbit and indeed shape of the Earth, then surly it is not impossible for a Tectonic Plate to slip or slide courtesy of the Sun, Moon and other planets influence .

From a Prediction point of view, I guess the trick is to establish which Tectonic Plates are precariously balanced, or weak and likely to break .

Personally, I don’t think the proposition in question is not too distant from predicting the weather with a Barometer .

My mind remains open on the matter . ;)
B.M. (505)
1182390 2011-03-08 02:39:00 I wouldn't argue about things that make the planet move, I believe 12V knows the term where there is sharing information with enough ambiguity it leaves the door open for many possibilities to happen.
How ever I believe his prediction was open enough... and if I read correctly changed enough so many things could have happened within a time frame.
Unfortunately it was a killer quake and maybe he should have waited a while before pretty much saying "I told you so" to the papers and media.
Belief or not, I don't like the guy lol
rob_on_guitar (4196)
1182391 2011-03-08 06:30:00 It doesn’t appear that way to me, indeed quite the reverse. :rolleyes:

But, if it appears that way to you, then who are we to argue. :lol:

He has a theory, but if you have an open mind, what would make the theory falsifiable?
Twelvevolts (5457)
1182392 2011-03-08 07:45:00 He has a theory, but if you have an open mind, what would make the theory falsifiable?

Constructive argument by those who don’t have a closed mind. :D
B.M. (505)
1182393 2011-03-08 08:31:00 Constructive argument by those who don’t have a closed mind. :D

Given you have avoided answering the question I think we can assume in lieu of an answer that the theory is therefore not falsifiable in your view, logically therefore confirming that you have a closed mind.

So given your statement above, you aren't able accept your own constructive arguments, perhaps therefore confirming why you don't make any.

This leaves the curious situation where if you were to now to provide a constructive argument as to how the theory could be falsified, you wouldn't be able to believe your own argument. :lol::lol::lol:
Twelvevolts (5457)
1182394 2011-03-08 08:36:00 Looks like Ken has got quite the money-maker going. Only $189 for a years worth of weather forecasts. Netsukeninja (13296)
1182395 2011-03-08 10:30:00 Personally, I don’t think the proposition in question is not too distant from predicting the weather with a Barometer .



I've read this sentence several times, but I still don't see what BM is saying . Too many negatives .
Is he/she say you can or cannot predict (sic) weather using a barometer?

Whatever, . . . . . . . a barometer is not a bad tool for forecasting the weather .
Atmospheric pressure changes very slowly, so the best estimate of what the pressure will be tomorrow is what the pressure was today . So if it was fine today, most likely it will be fine tomorrow . However, the pressure (and the weather) the day after tomorrow is much less likely to be the same as the pressure (or weather) today .

The reason is what's called "chaos", which is a concept that says that phenomena such as weather (or earthquakes) are governed by tiny perturbations in the present natural conditions whose effect propagates with time . And that's why we cannot forecast weather more than about a week ahead . It's because of chaos . A butterfly flapping its wings in the Amazon jungle can result in a tornado in Kansas a week later .

And this is also true of earthquakes . And that's what makes Ring's "predictions" so absurd . The effect of the 4 . 3 aftershock we had tonight (which he did not predict) will propagate forward and combine with the effects of other aftershocks and the effects of the Moon and Sun and all these will result in a chaotic future, which no one can predict .

So the best strategy is to put your head between your legs and kiss your arse goodbye .
TideMan (4279)
1182396 2011-03-08 17:48:00 I've read this sentence several times, but I still don't see what BM is saying.

Pseudo-science is like that.


A butterfly flapping its wings in the Amazon jungle can result in a tornado in Kansas a week later.

Seems unlikely.


So the best strategy is to put your head between your legs and kiss your arse goodbye

If you are that flexible why waste it on kissing your ar*e?. Best strategy might be to get rid of unsafe buildings.
Twelvevolts (5457)
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