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| Thread ID: 148181 | 2019-08-30 03:16:00 | Petrol stations & needing airpoints or similar card to get discounts | 1101 (13337) | PC World Chat |
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| 1463396 | 2019-10-10 02:45:00 | Where are those figures coming from 1101? they are US and Aus prices . NZ Nissan may not have a big enough market and not enough moral pressure to match that pricing . Sounds like Nissan NZ just dont care & see it as another throw away item to be scrapped after batt life dies . Im sure Nissan NZ dont want to encourage used imports , so obviously wont sell you a batt . |
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| 1463397 | 2019-10-10 03:28:00 | Yes, it's a joke . Batteries are not the answer . Short commutes are all very well but a lot don't do that . Certainly when we were down SOuth we didn't . and even in AUckland, my son couldn't be said to do short commutes, stuck in traffic for ages on the motorways . Lets see it, dead battery cars cluttering the motorway all over, what to do, have charging stations all along like they used to have those phones? And $15K is not cheap . . . not for low income people . Never mind the battery in one costing that . . . . I used to by $3K cars, or less . I think time will prove you wrong . Batteries are the only practical option at present and just because the leaf isn't very practical or affordable to you doesn't mean that will always be the case . Hybrids are an option in the interim but any other solution still seems a long way off . Hydrogen for example uses many times the electricity that batteries do at a much lower overall efficiency . Any cleaner burning liquid fuel requires too much land to grow the source crops . Meanwhile teslas which are certainly nowhere near affordable seem to be able to do many hundreds of thousands of kilometres on existing technology and are working towards more like a million . wired . com/story/tesla-may-soon-have-a-battery-that-can-last-a-million-miles/" target="_blank">www . wired . com . The point is not that any of us can or should afford a tesla, but rather that practical battery powered vehicles can and do exist and all we need now is for the costs to come down . It may be another 10-20 years before old electric cars that are still useful can be had 2nd hand for $3k or the equivalent (allowing for inflation) so that people at that end of the market might start buying them . But for those that can afford new cars electric is set to start filtering down from the top . As for your Auckland commute example, that's where the leaf is actually perfect . All that matters is distance travelled and speed . Sitting in traffic gives them more range not less . My normal commute in Hamilton is 10km and uses between 5-10% of my battery depending on a bunch of factors . Wednesday there was an accident and I was stuck going nowhere for an extra 20 minutes and the total trip cost me 3% of my battery . 2% better than ever before with twice the travel time . If an electric car isn't moving it isn't using power, and the slower it goes the more efficient it is . Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting people rush out and buy Leafs, I'm not sure I should have . They certainly have a lot of issues and limitations . But I do believe the car industry is going electric one way or another for the next decade or two unless some major breakthough happens . The beauty is if say hydrogen becomes the option of choice you can just replace the battery with a fuel cell and a tank because you already have the rest :) |
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| 1463398 | 2019-10-10 04:26:00 | Here's the story I referred to www.youtube.com And here's another view www.youtube.com |
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| 1463399 | 2019-10-10 04:28:00 | Interesting observer.com Ken :banana:banana |
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