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Thread ID: 116485 2011-03-06 03:22:00 Anyone here a Shakespeare enthusiast? xyz823 (13649) PC World Chat
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1183869 2011-03-06 03:22:00 We are currently studying Othello in English and we have to prepare a short speech. We have to argue for OR against this statement.


This is Shakespeare, nothing is what it seems

We have to use examples from Othello or any of his other plays.

I'm completely stumped and have no idea where to start so if anyone here is good with Shakespeare (Or just likes to argue a point) any help would be greatly appreciated.
xyz823 (13649)
1183870 2011-03-06 04:02:00 Ha, I studied Othello back in Year 12 English :)

I guess you need to think of deception and sweet talking that has been going on in the play, from the micro point of view. Roderigo was under the impression that Iago will help him to get his woman, and yet he was killed by the very man he trusted in the end.

Othello was planted with the mental image that his wife was cheating on him etc.

You should think along the macro point of view as well. What's Shakespeare trying to convey at the end of the play?
Renmoo (66)
1183871 2011-03-06 19:00:00 Ha, I studied Othello back in Year 12 English :)

I guess you need to think of deception and sweet talking that has been going on in the play, from the micro point of view. Roderigo was under the impression that Iago will help him to get his woman, and yet he was killed by the very man he trusted in the end.

Othello was planted with the mental image that his wife was cheating on him etc.

You should think along the macro point of view as well. What's Shakespeare trying to convey at the end of the play?

Brilliant, thanks :)

:pf1mobmini:
xyz823 (13649)
1183872 2011-03-06 20:19:00 Othello at the beginning of the play is the mighty general, but he has a fatal weakness, jealousy.
Iago is seen as the brave, loyal,subordinate, but his weakness is that he does not know himself "I am what I am" and his loyalty is only to himself.
Desdemona has all the attributes of a good woman, but she does not understand the male world around her.
Shakespeare shows us each character at a pinnacle, but then reveals the hidden truth so all their worlds come crashing down to destroy them.
Hence the relevance of the quotation you have been given.

Use quotes, give examples, summarize! Good luck!
leonidas5 (2306)
1183873 2011-03-06 20:33:00 It depends on who you're talking about.

Nothing is as it seems for the characters, because they are being constantly deceived by Iago.

However Shakespeare tells the audience what's going on (dramatic irony, the audience knows what the characters don't), so for the audience, everything is as it seems. Shakespeare does this in almost every play (you could use Romeo and Juliet as an example).

I think it would be interesting to argue that point because everyone else will be talking about how everything is nto as it seems.
Siobhan Keogh (16063)
1183874 2011-03-06 20:49:00 Pre-Google and Forums like this, what got me through was a 1930s reference called The Oxford Companion to English Literature . I'd just skim through the work itself, fluff out the precis, and it worked a charm . Bit like what you hope to achieve here with the help of Siobham, leonidas5, and Renmoo . :lol:

The OCEL was updated only a few years ago .
WalOne (4202)
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