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1212598 2011-06-27 22:38:00 Not true, you dont have to spend many hundreds of $$ to get reasonable protection . Its more to the point if the manufacture will honor their product .

I use UPS's that cost around $200-$300 and they work fine .

They are a basic UPS that provide surge protection, as well as battery backup in the event of a power problem, they are not designed to keep the PC's going for hours, but give you enough time to shut them down correctly,(5-15 minutes) or if the power goes out while not at home, the software will shut down the PC for you .

Theres been more than once over the years we had a power problem and I have been installing a OS in a customers PC, the UPS snaps in, and I have managed to carry on installing the OS then shut the PC down only running from the battery .

As for what's used -- A customer of mine had one similar to This at Ascent ( . ascent . co . nz/productspecification . aspx?ItemID=372525" target="_blank">www . ascent . co . nz) - Liebert honored the product .

The same customer had a massive power surge, which while it tripped the unit as well as every other circuit in the house apart from one -- (guess which one :rolleyes: and theres a reason for that ) , it was so powerful it actually fused the internals, blowing the whole computer - Liebert paid to have me rebuild the whole computer as well as replace his rather expensive LCD . The UPS was in month 18 of its 24 month warranty . The computer was put in the same time as the UPS .

Liebert took one look at the unit, said - OK It failed to do what it was meant to -- How much to replace the goods, a week later the payment was made .
wainuitech (129)
1212599 2011-06-27 22:40:00 (snip) Getting an 'EXPENSIVE' protector to protect some 'NOT-SO-EXPENSIVE' equipment is more or less not a wise move?

Factor in the worth of your data on the not so expensive equipment. If you don't care about your software, music, photos, videos, documents, emails etc, then your logic is OK.

Personally I have an UPS and have done for years, both to protect the PCs and the data thereon, but also to give me time to save open work, and shut down safely before whatever I am working on (only partially saved) goes down the gurgler.
John H (8)
1212600 2011-06-27 22:43:00 Why factor in the cost of data? You DO have backups off site do you not? Snorkbox (15764)
1212601 2011-06-28 00:16:00 Is this an essential item? If so, what make and model would you recommend?

Yes.

Lifetime gauranteed, AFAIK insures what you connected to it, so if a surge does fry it, simple talk with the company, and they should replace what was lost (with proof of course)

I have one of the ones mentioned above from DSE :cool: Quite possibly the only thing i've ever bought from DSE mind you..
Empathy. (16382)
1212602 2011-06-28 00:24:00 keep in mind a surge protector ONLY protects you against a surge, it DOES NOT protect you against brown outs, power fluctuations or a power cut.

Pull the power from a surge protector/multibox, and the PC will crash - this can and does cause data / OS corruption - the warranty in that case is useless and means nothing.
wainuitech (129)
1212603 2011-06-28 00:37:00 keep in mind a surge protector ONLY protects you against a surge, it DOES NOT protect you against brown outs, power fluctuations or a power cut.

Pull the power from a surge protector/multibox, and the PC will crash - this can and does cause data / OS corruption - the warranty in that case is useless and means nothing.

Ehh.. Touche Touche.. Never ran into anything other than a Surge though.. So, so far, so good. :)
Empathy. (16382)
1212604 2011-06-28 01:00:00 Not touche at all, just giving all the facts. Having a surge protector is fine for surges, but its only part of the protection.

Many people think problems only arise from power surges, which is completely incorrect.

Pull out the power from the mains Eg: simulate a power Cut (if running a desktop PC) and see if it keeps going with only a surge protector -- It wont, It will crash - now lets say it was installing some critical system software and that happened - high chance of corruption occuring.
wainuitech (129)
1212605 2011-06-28 01:18:00 Ehh . . Good point lol . .

So I purchase a generator to stop surges from ever happening? :D

Thanks for the insight :p
Empathy. (16382)
1212606 2011-06-28 01:28:00 Not quite :D

Around here when ever theres a power problem all the UPS's alarms go off at once - all nine of them --- What a racket :waughh: Sure lets you know theres a power Problem :)
wainuitech (129)
1212607 2011-06-28 01:33:00 UPS Radar's? :o Empathy. (16382)
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