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Thread ID: 116503	2011-03-07 01:59:00	Intel HD Graphics 3000	Cato (6936)	PC World Chat

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1184100	2011-03-07 22:20:00	Considering how bad Intel Graphic solutions have been in the past, the present and no doubt well into the future Fixed that for you :)	Agent_24 (57)
1184101	2011-03-07 22:28:00	they still sell MBP's with intel gfx's :horrified you get the 320m in the macbook air... the intel HD family (assuming that counts the 3000) is ranked higher than the Geforce GT 320m here: www.videocardbenchmark.net BTW couldn't find Intel HD 3000 anywhere on the site grrrr I've had a look at several benchmarks. Seems the 320M preforms better than HD3k unless it's in a quad core system, which the 13" MPB is not. Hi, were going to look at the air book, the boss liked how light and small it was, however, as we have bespoke practice software, i talked him out of it....We have looked at the Tosh R700, but the LCD was grainy and the keyboard naff. We are waiting on a demo from Sony to use for a month to see if we like their chassis, keyboard etc, its well OTT for office use, Quad SSD in Raid 0, i7, 8Gb ram blah blah, LOL, but apparently its come back from another demo trashed..!!, so that doesnt sound too good! Id love to get ideas for a light 1kg to 1.4kg lappy and is crippled with a low watt cpu! Lenovo is the answer. I'd buy the U260 in a heartbeat if it was available here. I thought about importing, but ~200$ for shipping, add to that GST and custom duty and it becomes way too much. (Would be cheaper to buy a ticket to the US, but it there, and have a holiday while we're at it.) You could consider HP Probooks or the premium Elitebooks (eg 2540p). Most low voltage notebooks will have integrated graphics. Elitebooks are built tough for IT departments because they need to last several years. Depending on what you need them for, a few of the larger elitebooks have IPS screens which are used for graphic design. Where do I find the elitebook? Being a "business" laptop, none of the chain stores stock them... If you really need graphics power, you could always use a desktop graphics card plugged in through the expresscard slot. How does that work? Would it output to the laptop's screen or an external one? Fixed that for you :) One can hope :)	Cato (6936)
1184102	2011-03-07 22:38:00	Where do I find the elitebook? Being a "business" laptop, none of the chain stores stock them... Unfortunately, along with Lenovo and Dell Latitudes, all the well built notebooks can't be found in shops. Its because they are too expensive. Search on pricespy perhaps? Maybe the laptop company has a showroom, i know they specialise in business notebooks. How does that work? Would it output to the laptop's screen or an external one? Well its definitely a tweakers/enthusiast thing, not something that is for the masses. You purchase a PCIe->expresscard converter. You plug in any standard PCIe graphics card (Nvidia is better because it has optimus technology) into the converter and the expresscard into the expresscard slot. You use the optimus notebook drivers on the desktop card which enables some form of compression across the pcie link; expresscard is equivalent to pcie 1x or 2x depending on which notebook you get. Despite this bottleneck, with optimus drivers, you get about 70-80% of the card's performance compared to if it were installed in a desktop machine. This is when using an external screen. When using an ati card/nvidia card without optimus drivers, performance is a bit lower but still substantially more than the HD3000 It can also output to the notebooks screen (with yet another performance hit). It maybe because it needs to send data across the pcie, then back to display it on the notebook's screen, whereas when using the external screen, it only needs to send it once.	utopian201 (6245)
1184103	2011-03-07 22:43:00	Intel GPUs might be much better than they were but compared to ATi and nVidia they are still a joke.	Agent_24 (57)
1184104	2011-03-07 23:00:00	Intel GPUs might be much better than they were but compared to ATi and nVidia they are still a joke. I have been hopeful ever since Intel bought Project Offset. With AMD acquiring ATI, I can't help but think Intel will put a wabbit out of it's bum and shock the world.	Cato (6936)
1184105	2011-03-07 23:49:00	I don't have much faith in them after Larrabee. "The chip was to be released in 2010 as the core of a consumer 3D graphics card, but these plans were cancelled due to delays and disappointing early performance figures." Personally, I think they just plain suck at making good GPUs. Larrabee might be good for HPC\GPGPU or something, but for gaming I doubt it.	Agent_24 (57)
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