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| Thread ID: 116678 | 2011-03-15 10:00:00 | New Zealand Smoke free in 14 Years | Bobh (5192) | PC World Chat |
| Post ID | Timestamp | Content | User | ||
| 1186390 | 2011-03-16 06:42:00 | Aren't most greens are against pollution of any sort? :stare: Some walk with a limp, but we are talking smoking here. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 1186391 | 2011-03-16 06:54:00 | I smoke and drink and I like it. Havent hurt anyone yet. | hueybot3000 (3646) | ||
| 1186392 | 2011-03-16 07:15:00 | Alcohol production is a very major industry in NZ. To ban the consumption and to still allow the production and exportation of grog would be very two-faced, so I can't see them ever banning booze. They may increase the taxes. Tobacco however is largely grown overseas and only employs a relatively small workforce within NZ, so there's a much smaller economic impact from banning smokes. I suppose the extreme end of the reactions will be kiwis who leave permanently in order to live in a country with affordable smokes - if that happens, then good riddance to them and their burden on the health system. |
Paul.Cov (425) | ||
| 1186393 | 2011-03-16 07:19:00 | I think you'll find it's the fatties, alcohol users and non-smokers who have a net burden on the health system. Smokers pay their own way... |
fred_fish (15241) | ||
| 1186394 | 2011-03-16 07:23:00 | Agreed. Someone who smokes is usually your average person, contributing an average amount to society. I think itd be fair to say there is more fatties on health benefits etc due to diabettes and that sorta thing than there is smokers. And without smokers there wouldnt be a health system as cheap to use as ours |
hueybot3000 (3646) | ||
| 1186395 | 2011-03-16 07:58:00 | No reason why it cant happen if they put up a packet of 20 cancer sticks say to $500 a pack. Make the fines the same as breaking a liquor ban. 14 years too far away please make it sooner. Putting the price up will only leave the gangs with another revenue source and they will never succeed in making NZ smoke free like they can't make it P free or marijuana free. |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 1186396 | 2011-03-16 08:00:00 | Of course it will go underground. So the answer is not to make it illegal but to control it and putting up the price is perhaps one way to do that. Putting the price up too far will still send it underground and give the gangs another revenue stream. |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 1186397 | 2011-03-16 08:01:00 | I think you will find most smokers are communist/green/labour voters. What an absolutely brainless comment.:groan: |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 1186398 | 2011-03-16 08:04:00 | What an absolutely brainless comment.:groan: Quote: Originally Posted by prefect :xmouth: |
fred_fish (15241) | ||
| 1186399 | 2011-03-16 08:08:00 | The devastation caused by grog is legend, don't think people are killed on the roads by a heavy smoker. The other night on Myth Busters they looked at drinking and tiredness while driving and the shocking thing was that the guy when tired was ten times worse than when having had a few to drink and the woman was three times worse. Quite an eye opener and suggests the MOT, or who ever they are now, need to highlight this. |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
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